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Upgraded to Windows 10

Finally bit the bullet and upgraded Desktop

         

IanCP

12:28 am on Aug 13, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Firing up the Desktop this morning I'm met with a purple ribbon across the Desktop telling me about upgrading. Being in a cavalier mood this fine, sunny late winter morning in Sydney area I thought "Yeah, why not"?

Fun, Fun, Fun...

First drama? During the installation phase [drivers] I get the BSD. This one is the "Black Screen of Death". Oh dear! Been there, done that when I upgraded from Win 8 Pro to Win 8.1 Pro - it was not a happy experience [long story]. Based upon that unhappy experience, and with fingers crossed? I switched the TV from the morning news service over to HDMI No. 2 input [PC].

Yep there's my Monitor in all its glory - the real PC Monitor is DEAD. Grrr... So I leave it to go along happily by itself, and after the driver phase is finished, the monitor comes to life. Phew eventually fixed itself with the right drivers.

Next I declined "Express Settings", and went for "Customise" - be aware that's hiding in subdued small print bottom left hand side.

Away we go again. It now tells me my Microsoft Media Centre will be disabled in Windows 10. Whoa! Accept or throw a spanner in the works? I'll bite the bullet and accept.

Anyway from then on it was plain sailing. End result when it did its final restart? The difference from say yesterday?

Same Desktop PC, apart from a minor keyboard glitch I'm aware of and can fix later...

You wouldn't even know it was Windows 10 Pro unless I told you so.

There are minor differences in File Explorer which I'm familiar with on the Win 10 Laptop. I can live with that. It substituted "The Edge" for IE 11 - I killed that off. All I have left to do is find out how to remove the pointless "Search the Web and Windows" panel consuming valuable space on my Task Bar.

IE11, FF 39.03, PaintShop Pro, Mailwasher, NoteTab Pro, Microsoft Movie Maker - they all still work - same settings, same history, same everything...

And I'm a Happy Chappy! - I'm on very good terms with myself, and I'll now update FF to 40.

I hope others enjoy my relatively painless experience.

tangor

12:51 am on Aug 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I believe Win 7s end of service is 2020. Win 8x EOF is 2023.

RedBar

6:01 pm on Sep 2, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I'm really disliking how folders open, disappear, fade away, change size, change position and generally screw-up my day now. I like to have MY PC folder open all the time so that I can access any drive at any time ... Every time I strike up I'm damned if I know if it's going to be there, if so in which position and size ... Usually I have to re-size and re-position.

And when it comes to having lots of folders open what the heck are all those faded boxes for telling you what's already open? Have more than 10 and it gets very messy, if like me you have 20/30/40 open at any one time, it's a nightmare.

I also do not like being advised to re-start my PC since it's just decided to do an update. Ok, it says it'll do it a 3am or something however I do not like being told what to do and when, it's my system, not theirs.

Apart from a faster start and shut down I can't see any improvements, I'm not looking forward to my Lumia phones being upgraded therefore will test it out on an old one before changing anything.

FWIW I've stopped upgrading all other machines at the moment.

IanCP

2:06 am on Sep 3, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I like to have MY PC folder open all the time so that I can access any drive at any time ...

Anything I use in that fashion, and there are quite a few/lot, I pin it to my Task Bar and open it once each morning.

J_RaD

3:32 am on Sep 3, 2015 (gmt 0)



also have you tried maybe using the virtual desktops in win 10 and group common stuff together and just flip from desktop to desktop

40 windows open at a time....thats like..wow, i hope you are running a multi monitor setup as well! :-O

keyplyr

5:42 am on Sep 3, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I also pin programs & views to the task bar. I like bringing them up quick while browsing. This is something I started doing in 7 and they grandfathered over with the upgrade to 10.

The longer I use 10 the more I like it.

keyplyr

11:22 am on Sep 3, 2015 (gmt 0)

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If you're sure you will stay with Windows 10, you may wish to consider cleaning-up the installation & error logs, previous Windows version & other unnecessary files. I was surprised how much disk space I freed-up.

Start > All apps > Windows Administrative > Disk Cleanup

J_RaD

4:26 pm on Sep 4, 2015 (gmt 0)



^ oh yea you'll clean up A TON! remember when the upgrade happens it keeps your ENTIRE windows 7 install sitting around.

just make sure you have some free time to walk away and let it do its thing LOL

RedBar

8:07 pm on Sep 17, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Yesssssssss, my Acer tablet with that diabolical 8.1 upgraded to Win10 today, this is how it was always meant to work.

Meanwhile on my PC I am hating folders more and more each day ... why do some folders open BEHIND already open ones instead of in front?

IanCP

9:14 pm on Sep 17, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I haven't experienced that. It seems to me that many people seem to have issues which others don't have, while having entirely different issues of their own.

There's no pattern.

RedBar

3:44 pm on Sep 21, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Re-boot again with about 40 folders open ...spinning donuts, couldn't do a darned thing ... this is not a power-users OS, it's US!

At least it re-boots fast however I now have to re-open what I was doing ... thanks for the reduction in productivity level MS.

And a friend is having a known bug issue with Office.

RedBar

11:10 am on Sep 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Second hard re-boot in three days for me with nothing running, neither keyboard nor mouse working.

I was talking with some guys last night and they've all experienced upgrade problems, unfortunately it's too late for me to revert some machines, I am certainly not recommending it to anyone on PC.

engine

11:23 am on Sep 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Have you checked for driver updates?

Microsoft's most recent post on its blog talks about privacy, but it also indicates how a system crash was solved through the fact that the crash data was received and acted upon. [webmasterworld.com...]

J_RaD

3:37 am on Oct 2, 2015 (gmt 0)



I go into each upgrade with drivers 100% updated, some times win 10 will dump video drivers, which are updated manually. I then shut off all auto hardware driver updates. (look online, takes 2 seconds)

now software patch only.

RedBar

11:39 am on Oct 5, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Awesome MS ... My PC was sat that and it decided to upgrade by itself, re-booted and now I have the Black Screen of Death ... nothing's working, there's nothing wrong with any drivers, this OS has a mind of its own on my PC.

No option but for a hard re-boot now.

No way would I recommend this for a PC, it's horrible, it's taken a prefect running machine and scewed it over.

I now do not trust this machine whatsoever.

RedBar

1:27 pm on Oct 5, 2015 (gmt 0)

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It gets even better, two more crashes followed by:

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

I can just imagine this happening in a busy office environment, there would be some mightily pi$$ed off techies about.

I'm off on a Win7 ISO hunt, I can't be bothered with this garbage and I'm not the only one:

[answers.microsoft.com...]

keyplyr

5:55 pm on Oct 5, 2015 (gmt 0)

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@RedBar - Very sorry you're having all these problems. Hopefully you'll get them resolved :)

RedBar

7:36 pm on Oct 5, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I do know several other people who are experiencing issues, I had to do a factory reset last week for a friend's Win7 laptop that simly wouldn't have it.

Interestingly, so far my two laptops I updated with the Win10 iso seem to be behaving themselves however my PC which was done as an OTA update is the one that has been having problems. Subsequent to my problems earlier today I have had yet another update and re-start, since then it has been stable however I am now prepared with my Win7 iso therefore if it gives me one more hiccough/hiccup it will be gone.

I am running Win10 on my Lumia 1520 and it is ok however definitely not as smooth as 8.1, I expect the full release to be spot on.

RedBar

1:59 pm on Oct 6, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Oh well, here we go, Win7 reinstallation after striking-up my PC this morning I got this:

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

I zapped 10, had a 7 iso, that went ok, found the few drivers I needed and the machine is flying again, in fact faster than it ever was however I need to add a few of my programmes yet.

Touch wood all seems fine.

RedBar

12:53 am on Oct 11, 2015 (gmt 0)

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What a steaming pile of crap Win10 is ... Two laptops have been totally and utterly effed over tonight for me ... reinstalling Win7 on them both.

I feel really, really sorry for all of Joe Public who are, without doubt, going to have to pay to have their machines sorted.

I have a theory as to the problem.

MS insist upon their constant updates, my Lumia 1520 doesn't have any issues sinces it is constantly switched on, my PCs and laptops get switched off, the problems I am seeing are when a machine, like tonight one of my laptops which has not been on for two days, suddenly gets a load of updates in one go and totally and utterly locks up the machine doing Win10 updates.

This is a MASSIVE FU by MS.

Am I the ONLY ONE experiencing these problems?

I know the answer is no, this OS is not yet fit for purpose, no wonder it's FREE!

tangor

5:30 am on Oct 11, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Some things do seem slower when they should be faster, and an upgrade should be more stable than this one is ... and there is entirely too much "re-do what has already been done because it was not fully cooked". The majority of laptops are not as "robust" in speed, capacity, or ram as desktops. When Win 10 comes in to correct/update one of its own updates that turns the laptops into a steam pile of farmer's friend.

That said, I have had zero problems with 10 on desktops, sans one machine. Which is my WORK machine. For some strange reason (and I've tried it twice, it insists the network connection is wifi (which it does not even have) and thus cannot connect to any of my workgroups. Thus total fail for me on that machine.

A number of clients have done the upgrade and are satisfied. Perhaps many others are as well, else that 110m user base would be making noise.

[edited by: tangor at 5:38 am (utc) on Oct 11, 2015]

tangor

5:37 am on Oct 11, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I have about 10 Win7 licenses left, and do build new machines once or twice a month. I have noted that if the Win7 installation does not reach SP1, Win 10 will not force itself into the Windows Update mix.

Not suggesting that updates are avoided, just commentary on what appears to be a true trigger for the MS push.

mcneely

5:48 pm on Oct 15, 2015 (gmt 0)

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A while back, just for kicks, I loaded a windows 10 build -- Since I have clients asking periodically about how I might like it, I wanted to be informed enough to give them a somewhat intelligent answer -- No expert by any stretch, but I just somehow feel that Microsoft could've done a bit better of a job putting this whole thing together.

It writes to a lot of things out of the box, and it has some Linux like qualities in that regard, but I'm just not sure that MS is quite up to speed, unless of course, you want to play around with the synchronizing features whilst you find yourself texting and bookmarking all day..

Work is what it is, and so far, MS hasn't quite surrendered itself over to the fact that many of us still use computers for work.
It's presumed simplicity is greatly overshadowed by it's wanting to be the cool kid on the block by it's less than desirable UI frillies.

I used to take cars out in my late teens/early 20's, and see which model would go the longest before throwing a rod -- These days I'll run operating systems out in much the same way as that -- Even a Mac can't be crashed or borked as easily as MS Windows 10 can .. It's kind of sad really -- All of the presumed work that has supposedly gone into this build and I can flip a blue screen on it faster than you can left click. Be kind to her, as she is indeed a fragile child --

And so here it sits, in a box behind my desk -- I pull it out and hook it up to a panel and a connection every so often just to let it feed on an update or two, before unplugging it and putting it back again.

I keep it around if not for any other reason than to install it on a machine for someone who really thinks it's the Bees Knees -

keyplyr

7:20 am on Oct 17, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Contrary to the negative attitudes expressed in this thread and sorry for those who had problems, I actually like Windows 10 Pro a lot. I like it better than Windows 7 Pro (skipped 8 and 8.1) and here are just a few of the reasons:
• Much faster, stable & boots up extremely quick!
• I can uninstall any app right from the start menu.
• I like the action center notifications.
• The folder functions are intuitive. Rename, delete, move... all from the top!
• Nicer display for multiple windows.
• Much better memory & resources management
• I really like the grouping of the system functions, very easy to find things.
• Cross-device support. My next tablet will run Windows 10.
• Universal security updates.
• I like the new general look of everything.

RedBar

1:12 pm on Oct 19, 2015 (gmt 0)

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So far two PC complete rebuilds, two laptops complete rebuilds and two mobile phone compete rebuilds, this was not a simple matter of turning the things back, they were complete rebuilds.

The laptops have been the most difficult with both taking about 25 hours each. This is because they both had to be rebuilt from an early Win7 ISO, the initial rebuild was ok, the problem was with the massive amounts of very slow updates, well over 1GB and requiring re-starting several times.

The phones, once I understood what I had to do, were ok, and I shall not let Win 10 anywhere near them again. A tablet that was running 8.1, and it was horrible to use on this specific tablet, has updated to 10 and now runs extremely smoothly.

I get the feeling that some of the newer equipment may run ok with 10 whereas older stuff may not fare so well but saying that I know of a solicitor's office that has just bought two brand new identical Win 10 laptops, one works fine with the wireless printer, the other refuses to acknowlegde its existence.

I could point you to an MS forum board where there are thousands of complaints however that is for MS to sort out, my problem is to resolve the problems 10 has created simply because it was not ready ... for my machines.

mcneely

4:44 pm on Oct 19, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I get the feeling that some of the newer equipment may run ok with 10 whereas older stuff may not fare so well


MS is trying to phase out the older stuff .. this is obvious by the fact that it won't install nVidia drivers whilst the box is equipped with an nVidia card .. Microsoft chooses to use it's own driver writes in these cases.

Windows 10 also resets various configurations, like screen resolution for instance, to what it thinks you should have, upon after any update. (I deferred updates) I tire easily of having to reset the screen resolution configs every time MS updates, using it's own drivers instead of the recommended drivers for the hardware. (and this is on a box barely a year old).

I wonder how much money MS plans to save by writing it's own drivers for this stuff --

keyplyr

11:27 pm on Oct 19, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Windows 10 also resets... screen resolution for instance, to what it thinks you should have, upon after any update.
I have not had that experience. I set screen resolution once after install 6 months ago. There have been several updates since then and resolution hasn't changed.

tangor

12:19 am on Oct 20, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I never had to set screen res, Win10 got it right every time. Might be something else going on, mcneely

keyplyr

1:01 am on Oct 20, 2015 (gmt 0)

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You don't actually *need* to set screen res when you install Win10. Some users *choose* to for various reasons.

mcneely

2:27 am on Oct 20, 2015 (gmt 0)

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19" Dell Panel (for instance) .. Windows ignores nVidia card and uses it's own driver -- I set the resolution to 1280 x 1024 and Windows sets it back to what it sees as the recommended settings of 1024 x 768 'every single time' it updates -- Does the same with VGA and HD ... My guess would be that since Windows is ignoring my hardware, and using it's own cheap driver write, that it doesn't know any other way to do it.

I have an older laptop too, and it's the same deal - instead of having the choice of screen resolutions like the kind that nVidia provides, Windows just goes with the very few it provides through it's own driver version.

tangor

3:06 am on Oct 20, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Looking about on the web a bit I found this oddity:

Delete the nVidia drivers. Use the defaults until the next update, THEN install the new nVidia drivers and it appears to "take" from that point forward. Haven't used this method. Can't say it works, but it does make a weird sort of sense, ie, the registery is changed then updated with the new mfg install.
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