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Arbitrage OK?

Letter from the Big G...

         

willybfriendly

1:12 am on Nov 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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OK, here I thought arbitrage was a business model that Google is shutting down.

Imagine my surprise when I opened a letter from Google today that states, in part


[An invitation to try AdWords to drive visitors to your website]...

The emphasis comes from the original. They even gave me a coupon for a $100 credit.

Does the left hand know what the right is doing?

<edit>Fixed bad speeling,/edit>

[edited by: willybfriendly at 1:37 am (utc) on Nov. 17, 2009]

[edited by: martinibuster at 3:37 am (utc) on Nov. 17, 2009]
[edit reason] Removed Email Quote. See TOS. [/edit]

sailorjwd

2:01 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks ASA.

Read the unreadable rules. Adsense and Adwords are like playing russian roulette. You never know when Google will tweak an algo or some inspector with a bug up their butt will flag your site in the future.

You'd think someone who has earn over 1/2 million $ for Google over the years could request a review and get an official yes/no answer.

I'm officially requesting that Google stop their business. Their business model is not a good match for my sanity.

ps. I passed the LPQ guidelines through a readability checker - my computer hung.

signor_john

3:08 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)



Then come to AdWords thread and ask to get those pages explained. :)))))

If you don't know whether you're a legitimate publisher or an aspiring click arbitrageur, it's probably safest not to promote your site with AdWords.

willybfriendly

6:19 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm flummoxed that people can't see the difference between driving PPC traffic to promote a site with a lot of good unique content and some ads, and a site with a lot of ads and a little bit of (unique or not so unique) content.

Very relative terms, netmeg. What is obvious to one may be obscure to another.

Given the labile nature of Google policies and their application to individual sites, and the lack of transparency on how it all works, I would be extremely reluctant to use AdWords promotion on an existing and performing site, or to use it on a new site that was tied into the same Google account.

netmeg

8:24 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ok, well, as mentioned above - if it's not obvious to you, then don't do it.

IanCP

8:52 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'll hang out with the "when in doubt?" crowd.

Cancellara

9:31 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ASA
ASA

PS: You can find the AdWords Landing Page and Site Quality Guidelines here and the Google Webmaster guidelines here.

From guidelines

Relevant and Original Content

Relevance and originality are two characteristics that define high-quality site content. Here are some pointers on creating content that meets these standards:

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So others are stealing my unique content and Google is doing nothing about it. You still allow adSense and AdWords on stolen content pages. Even score them higher than the original content page.

How can we fight that?

My content is copied by yahoo, aol, yelp and others and nobody is doing anything about it.

It really sucks!

F.

sailorjwd

11:30 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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John,

That was a genius of you.. of course I know what I am. The point is I want to make sure Google knows what I am because in the past they have had a hard time telling the difference between a consulting biz and a made for adsense site. My business and my site long predate adsense.. as does my participation in adwords.

As we all know, we don't get warnings or second chances with G. I prefer to play on the safe side and ask. Over the last 5 years I've sent lots of inquiries to see if something was 'ok' and I would get a response... now there is no response.

sailorjwd

11:35 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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re stolen content...

Ya.. that drives me up the wall too. Today I submitted another 20 DMCAs for a single page on my site. Most of the alleged infringers were using adsense. I had cleaned them all up last June.

sailorjwd

11:38 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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If I hung out with the when in doubt crowd I'd never leave an AA meeting.

sailorjwd

11:38 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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dup post.

Cancellara

11:48 pm on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Ya.. that drives me up the wall too. Today I submitted another 20 DMCAs for a single page on my site. Most of the alleged infringers were using adsense. I had cleaned them all up last June.

You got no idea. We spent thousands on fighting this crap. There are websites that do copy our entire sites. Our product descriptions & images are basically public domain.

We spent thousands on editorial content for nothing, I'm just waiting for the moment Google will copy our content and re-release it as a Google Yellow Pages.

I'm so upset just to think about it. Grrrrrrrrrrr

F.

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