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My traffic is good, but it looks like G has simply decided to pay me less.
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I opened another Adsense account (with their permission, one for business and one for personal)? After I notified them about this earnings have seemed to tank.
Why would they be "punishing" me? Have I lost credibility in their eyes?
My traffic is good, but it looks like G has simply decided to pay me less.
Or maybe there's a worldwide recession?
This site is using the old account.
If you make switches the adsense ads match the theme of the site ( widgets) but if you are not changing content the pages are spidered more frequently after a few weeks ads begin get more specific to actual pages themselves. (18th century widgets), Free Range organic widgets.
Did you submit a site plan>?
In my vertical, in January several campaigns expired. My other sites that do not use adsense have seen a slight downtick but my affiliate sakes are steady.
Adsense pricing floats - that's the beauty of the system - and is 100% market driven. The market's down.
Sure, there will be people who will pop their head into threads like this and go "my earnings are up!" but look at the world economy right now and you'll have your answer.
Sure, there could be factors specific to you, but if I had to guess, I'd say you're just experiencing what many others are experiencing, online and offline.
Signor, that could be, but why did it wait until a few days after I launched my account?
Well, you were comparing January and February with September and October, and the advertising economy has taken a turn for the worse in the past several months--partly because of uncertainty, and partly because many companies still had ad budgets to use up in 4Q 2008 but are working with smaller budgets (or are spending money cautiously from month to month) now that we're in 2009.
In the past, I paid $0.50 for keywords in content network to get a significant impressions. As of 2009, I pay $0.04 in content network and receive triple impressions.
Sounds like an opportunity for people with savings. I hear there is one in Arizona.
Or maybe there's a worldwide recession?
Yea sure, and then comes the next financial report and you hear how Google managed to "somehow" double their profits yet again over such bad, "recession" affected quarter.
call it what it is, another major pay cut to publishers.
[edited by: Web_speed at 11:26 am (utc) on Feb. 11, 2009]
So I can not compensate the declining eCPM with more visitors.
Tuesday and today are also terrible. Very high traffic, extrem low CTR.
If you search WebmasterWorld for some thing like "AdSense Earnings down" or "My Ecpm is dropping", you will find this issue of dropping revenue is nothing new.
Please don't take me wrong, but this thread you started has been discussed a bunch on WebmasterWorld. People's AdSense earnings have been dropping for years and I suspect this trend will continue.
I remember when AdSense was new and folks where posting about the "Free Money" and how wonderful Google and AdSense where. - The good old days...
Hey everybody, please don't shoot the messenger!
Sorry uhwebs!
[edited by: Edge at 1:36 pm (utc) on Feb. 11, 2009]
On one of these I see a slow and steady decrease and now we're down to approx 40% of our eCPM and revenue within a span of 1-2 months with nothing else changing.
EPC is a fragment of what it was.
Could be due to other factors...
But it goes to say, I'm suspicious as well.
Meaning to the fact that Google reported that they're doing OK.
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Yea sure, and then comes the next financial report and you hear how Google managed to "somehow" double their profits yet again over such bad, "recession" affected quarter.
1) Google's profits are beside the point. Maybe you mean Google's revenues? If so, that's largely beside the point, too, because a high percentage of Google's revenues from Google-owned properties. If you're going to try and draw any conclusions from Google's revenues, you should be looking at revenues from the content network ("AdSense partners").
2) Google's earnings reports don't show average eCPMs, so unless you can demonstrate that the Google content network's growth in advertisers and impressions was exactly the same as your growth in advertisers and impressions, you're comparing apples and oranges.
3) If you think the folks at Google are cheating you, or if you aren't happy with the revenue they're producing, why not make a change? Think of Google as an ad rep firm, not as an employer, and maybe it will be easier for you to say "You're fired" and replace Google with a rep firm that can do a better job of monetizing your ad inventory.
The recession put an end to my other completely unrelated off-line income streams, so I can imagine it also being the cause for Adsense earnings drops.
In a warped kind of way I quite enjoy times like this - they force you to get off your backside to do something creative, and give you the time to do it.
Ebb and Flow
My affiliate schemes earnings have fallen faster than the Adsense income, so they offer no alternative. You don't "fire" the company if they are increasingly monopolising the market. In the next few months many of the alternatives will have gone bust.
No, the solution is to work harder and smarter with the company which offers the best income chances. There are always greener fields for some. Clearly, you are one of them. But there are no greener fields for the majority.
[edited by: encyclo at 1:00 pm (utc) on Sep. 28, 2009]
My biggest concern is that by the time recession subsides, there will be enough competition to more than absorb any upswing, and what we have now is as good as it gets.
Well said.
Some possible/potential upsides of the recession:
- less competition if they bankrupt.
- more advertisers if smaller ad-networks bankrupt (and advertizers move to G).
- more advertisers try/test ads online ("the cheaper alternative") and stick with their campaigns after things pick up.
- bad times are the best motivation to work harder (if you're not a quitter).
- recession "cleans up" the industry by killing weak/fraudulent business models.
No, the solution is to work harder and smarter with the company which offers the best income chances. There are always greener fields for some. Clearly EFV, you are one of them. But there are no greener fields for the majority.
Bull. Online Publishing Darwinism. Adapt or die. If you can't make money with your business model as is, then YOU MUST ADAPT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL.
Google, or Affiliate Marketing or even the economy isn't what holds you back. It's lethargy, it's lack of creativity, it's the mentality that says "there are no greener fields for some." and calls people names (the EFV references are not lost on me) or just whines or gives up.
Large numbers of advertising, publishing, and IT professionals have laid off from their jobs in the last few months. I'd guess that more than a few of them will have the time and motivation to work on "AdSense sites"--meaning that more publishers (some of them highly qualified) will be competing for a finite number of advertisers, ad dollars, and clicks.
Do you research companies advertising on your site?
Do you block any?
If you block ads, do you block the one's that wouldn't appeal to your audience?
Or do you block ads you feel will pay less per click?
Do you know who your audience is?
If you identify pages with high bounce rates, do you come find ways to make them more interesting to your visitors?
If I find pages that perform poorly with AdSense, I find something else that will. It takes time and a lot of work, but it it's time well spent.
[edited by: Atomic at 4:54 pm (utc) on Feb. 12, 2009]
Bull. Online Publishing Darwinism. Adapt or die. If you can't make money with your business model as is, then YOU MUST ADAPT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL.Google, or Affiliate Marketing or even the economy isn't what holds you back. It's lethargy, it's lack of creativity, it's the mentality that says "there are no greener fields for some." and calls people names (the EFV references are not lost on me) or just whines or gives up.
That's not just true for businesses on the 'net. That's true for any small business. You need to make your own success.
You may already be on the right side of the fence.
If that's the case then don't be led too far down a blind alley looking for something that is simply not there.
Work smarter and work harder where the returns are best and you'll win. There is no easy way.
Doing that with subject matter that you enjoy makes it all that much easier.
It always happens ones in month(1 day), but things get wrapped up next day to normal. But its been three days now, which is very frustrating.
What might be the reason for it? I am kind of worrying to this fact, we all put efforts to improve our earning, we do not work hard to keep bringing it up all over again to the level it fall off from.
Please share your experiences regarding this issue.
Joey
What might be the reason for it?
There's this thing called an economy, and it's not doing too well.
