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Any easy ways to help the Ukrainian cause?

         

l008comm

9:06 am on Apr 20, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Most of my website are low traffic and have very local content.

But one of them actually gets a lot of traffic and has global reach. So I was wondering if there is any trustworth, reputable service that has any "widgets" you can stick on a page that will show something along the lines of news regarding the war to IPs based in russia, and maybe something like donation information to everyone else. Or maybe just 'nothing' to everyone else, and I'll hard code the donation information.

I don't really want to set up a complicated system that geo-ip's every incoming visitor and tries to determine their locale. I also don't think I'm a very good person to be in charge of curating news on a war.

But if theres an org out there that does this already and gives you an easy path to embed it on to your website, I'd be very interested in that.

Sgt_Kickaxe

10:27 am on Apr 20, 2022 (gmt 0)



You want to show Ukrainian news to visitors from Russia? News written by which country? I'm sure most major news outlets offer a feed if you look.

I'm not sure why you think showing foreign news to Russians will help the Ukrainian cause, though. Russia has news sources, even some English ones like RT and Sputnik. Without better understanding how life in Russia is from a civilian point of view you may chase off your visitors, or get blocked. The conflict is new to most outside Ukraine and Russia but has been escalating since 2014 for them.

Russia banned Instagram but they have social media platforms like telegram and communication software like ICQ that are popular in Russia. Sanctions and counter-sanctions cut them off from Western sources, not all sources. You might get more useful information by finding an active Ukrainian support group and asking how to help there.

ronin

10:10 pm on Apr 20, 2022 (gmt 0)

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[...] something along the lines of news regarding the war to IPs based in russia, and maybe something like donation information to everyone else


I'd guess that any Russian Federation citizen who regularly visits non-state-controlled sources on the web is probably under 50 (and likely a lot younger than that) and already has a good chance of suspecting that the "official story" from state controlled media is not right. They also likely to be aware of sources where they can find out more.

But. A very large number of Russian Federation citizens won't take advantage of non-state-controlled sources on the web.

Those who know only the official line about what's happening in Ukraine:

"We are undertaking an unusual but necessary series of surgical strikes to neutralise the ever-more-powerful Neo-Nazi elements who are brainwashing and (effectively) holding captive the people in the territory known as "Ukraine" before they amass enough troops and ordnance to execute devastating strikes against the Motherland"

almost certainly won't.

Meanwhile, those who are aware of non-state-controlled sources but who have bought into the official line are unlikely to be persuaded by "idle propaganda from foreign agents".

Better, by far (I would suggest) to promote links to destinations like:

unicef
[unicef.org.uk...]

Save the Children
[savethechildren.org.uk...]

etc.

to help encourage visitors from all countries (including Russia) to make a contribution which will make a real difference on the ground.

Sgt_Kickaxe

11:58 pm on Apr 20, 2022 (gmt 0)



What Ukrainian civilians need now is to be able to get out safely, and later when they return, to have help in rebuilding their lives.

Ukraine banned civilian males aged 18 to 60 from fleeing. Despite not having even the most basic of military skills they are blocked from leaving and put in harms way. [usatoday.com...]

The failed politics of the entire situation dating back years is nightmare fuel.

ronin

10:08 am on Apr 21, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Ukraine banned civilian males aged 18 to 60 from fleeing. Despite not having even the most basic of military skills they are blocked from leaving and put in harms way.


Yes. That's one way of looking at it.

Ukraine is fighting for its life.

There are no good choices here.

When a militarily massively superior much larger neighbour intent on cultural obliteration is sending in tanks, rockets and troops to annex a huge geographical swathe of your country and, if possible, absorb your entire country... what would you have your country do? Fight back the imperialistic invaders at great cost with everything you've got? Or capitulate so the invaders can treat your population however they want to?

If the Russian Federation moved to annex Alaska, what do you imagine the response would be?

Ukraine has had to make a terrible choice because of the Kremlin's arrogance and aggression.

Sgt_Kickaxe

7:55 pm on Apr 21, 2022 (gmt 0)



ronin, it's easy for outsiders to see "Ukraine vs Russia" as totally seperate countries but their people, their way of life, and sadly the ongoing political decay between countries is dificult on a level the west doesn't seem to quite grasp. Many Russians have Ukrainian blood. Many Ukrainians have Russian blood. Most Ukrainians speak Russian etc. You can't simply divide them and bash the half you disagree with on the civilian level.

The political class did this by helping or ignoring events that led to where we are now, civilians certainly didn't divide themselves.

This Ukrainian/Russian woman living this nightmare says it better than I can - [youtube.com...]

ronin

8:36 pm on Apr 21, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Tell me about it.

I don't tend to mention it here on WebmasterWorld, but I have a Bachelor's Degree in Russian and Slavonic Studies (including Russian language, linguistics, history and literature) and a Master's Degree in Post-Soviet Nationalism and Identity (with a special focus on Ukrainian Studies).

I have lived in Russia and visited the Russian Federation many times - not just the metropolitan areas around Moscow and St. Petersburg, but the Golden Circle (of course) and regional cities like Saratov, Voronezh, Rostov-on-Don, Sochi & Adler and elsewhere. Once I spent a week in Ulan-Ude in Buryatia.

I've not lived in Ukraine in the same way I've lived in Russia, but in the last two decades I've visited Ukraine even more times than I have Russia. So I am familiar with life in Kyiv, Simferopol (before 2014), Odesa, L'viv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Mukachevo, Uzhhorod and a small handful of other places.

I speak Russian fluently and Ukrainian rather less fluently.

It was not my intention to gloss over the depth of mutual exchange between Russian and Ukrainian peoples, languages, cultures, which I am all too aware of, so forgive me, if that's how my post came across.

One would be hard-pressed to find many other nations anywhere in the world quite so entangled, quite so intimately interwoven.

Sgt_Kickaxe

10:30 pm on Apr 21, 2022 (gmt 0)



wow, you probably understand the divide between what media depicts and what actual civilians are enduring better than most. I wasn't sure, it sounded like you wanted to provide western media into Russia and I didn't see how that would be apreciated by your target audience.

If you find a way to help civilians with your sites beyond a donation button I'd love to hear about it, and offer technical help if it's needed.

Kendo

7:10 am on Apr 22, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Donation buttons may be useless even if the money raising is indeed on the up and up because even if you do raise funds, how are you going to send them to anyone?

I see sanctions by banks that are not only preventing transfers to Russia, but also to Ukraine. Perhaps they are afraid that the bank may or could be under the control of invaders.

Sgt_Kickaxe

5:45 pm on Apr 22, 2022 (gmt 0)



You're not - Ukrainian citizen funds are being locked down by Zalensky..

For example: Ukraine just banned bitcoin. [markets.businessinsider.com...]
The flaw in that argument is that funds moving to bitcoin aren't "fleeing the country", they are being locked up as bitcoin by owners to prevent gov seizures..