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Connecting NAS at 10 GBE

carfac

7:20 pm on May 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Hi!

I am a networking newb... I know just enough to get into a boatload of trouble. I was hoping I could say what I want to do, and how I hope it would work, and see if someone who really knows this stuff could see if this will work!

OK, so I start with 2 Synology NAS's. Each has a 10 GBE card with 2 RJ45s, and 4 standard 1 GB ports. All are configures at 192.168.1.101 and above. What I would LIKE to do is connect both NAS's together with a 10.1.0.XXX IP, and then take one of the remaining 10GBE ports and connect straight to my computer (all on the 10.1.0.xxx network, no router or anything, all just straight lines). Would this work, Would NAS 2 pass NAS 1 to the main computer if all are just daisy chained like this? I do a LOT of video and big image editing, and I thought I could make this all jumbo frames to maximize speed and throughput. I plan on using NAS 2 as my main storage, and then back it all up onto NAS 1... so if I can get all these talking fast it would be good.

Then NAS 2 and NAS 1 would also be connected through the 192 network at 1 GB speeds for the whole network.

Thanks!

Dave

engine

8:29 am on May 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Hi carfac,

I'm no expert on this, and had a similar idea. I found my solution was to simply connect them via a switch and run them as stand-alone units. As I understand it, the technology was not designed to operate daisy chained, and that would result in a significant performance drop.

I ended with two NAS drives because, at the time of acquisition, i couldn't afford to splash out on a -4-drive unit. I save the files to the computer's internal drive, which automatically backs up to the NAS drives. I don't have to think about it. By using the internal drive on the computer it's way faster than across the network.

Sometimes, the simpler solution can save time.

carfac

2:16 pm on May 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Hey Engine!

Thanks for that! I too am a little wondering if I can daisy chain. When you mentioned that, I got to thinking possible it would work if I had a DNS Server for the isolated 10.x.x.x net... and the NAS has a DNS server in it, (I think).

The reason I DONT want to go your route is that I want to go Jumbo Frames. TO do that EVERYTHING in the chain needs to be set to Jumbo Frames... even the router/switch. Have you priced a simple switch that has at least 3 10 GBE ports... and will run Jumbo? Ha ha!

I think I will still connect the MAIN NAS to the computer Visa 10 GBE, and then have the other at 1 GB

Thanks!

Dave

mack

7:43 pm on May 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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You may find you need to use a crossover cable as opposed to a regular network cable to connect system to system without a network switch. (If your NAS supports this) I have always just used a switch on the network and then set static IP addresses to the NAS.

I might have misunderstood, but do you want to be able to see the content of both servers as one "drive"? I am not very familiar with Synology software but this might be an option within their control panel. I have done something similar in the past on my Linux boxes using NFS (network file system) it's where you mount another system's drive(s) on a remote system and it appears as a local drive would.

Currently, I just run an old PC upgraded and repurposed as my NAS. Ubuntu Server, 5 drives in Raid 5, then synk my PC's with the server.

I also do a fair bit of video editing so understand why you would want the setup you described. Sometimes it's very beneficial to be able to edit with the files on the server. Fast "pipes" make this possible.

Mack.

carfac

1:15 am on May 3, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Mack:

Thanks so much. No, I do not want to combine the drives.... I would not know how ro even do that! :) I just would like to see both NAS's from the computer... and have both NAS's see each other. I figure if theyre gonna back up a lot, speed would be cool there.

If this is NOT possible, I will just put the main NAS and the Computer in a direct connect and let the BU happen at whatever speed it can get. That I KNOW I can do!

mack

10:03 pm on May 3, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I think the easiest way to get it working would be to use a network hub/switch. Run Cat 6 cable from your computer to the switch, then from the switch to each server. allow your router to assign an IP to each then from within your router control pannel ensure it retains the same address for the servers. Each router will have a slightly different way of doing this but it should be included in their documentation or online help.

Mack.