getting my email addy off of black lists.

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getting my email addy off of black lists.

mike2010

6:19 pm on Jun 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

my main email addy I continue to use is the same one I started out with 12 years ago. Even though i'm strictly against spammers & hate them right along with everyone else...my addy has been out there for 12 years, so i'm guessing its been innocently picked up by some blacklist services.

This is NOT one of my domain related email addy's. Its an MSN account.

Which is why i'm having a hard time finding any service out there that can tell whether or not my specific email address is on a blacklist or not. Is there even 1 service out there that allows this ? It seems like all sites i've just seen on google are solely for removing your server from blacklists.

I just want to #1 find out if my 1 email addy (MSN account) has been blacklisted...and #2 how to remove it and make it clean again.

The reason i'm suspicious is because a lot of times people either do not get my email from that account....or I do not receive email from others to this account.

any ideas ?

MichaelBluejay

6:36 am on Jun 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

Why are you *guessing* that your address has been added to blacklists? Do you know for sure that mail you send is going into recipients' spam folders? If not, why are you worrying?

If it *is* going into recipients' spam folders, for which service(s) do you know this is happening? Yahoo? Hotmail? Google? What?

In any event, I'm not aware of any service that maintains a list of spamming *addresses*. Every blocklist I know of is based on spammy *servers*. If anyone does maintain a list of spammy addresses, it's likely at the local level. (e.g., Yahoo maintaining its own list for Yahoo Mail)

piatkow

8:24 pm on Jun 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

Are these mails sent through MSN or are you sending through another account with the MSN address set as the "from" address?

I was caught like that years ago with a Hotmail account, Microsoft, Yahoo and AOL treated messages as spam because they were not originated from within Hotmail. I don't know about Gmail as it this was before it was launched.

mike2010

3:18 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

Are these mails sent through MSN or are you sending through another account with the MSN address set as the "from" address?

I was caught like that years ago with a Hotmail account, Microsoft, Yahoo and AOL treated messages as spam because they were not originated from within Hotmail. I don't know about Gmail as it this was before it was launched.

Its whenever I sign up for an affiliate program or another forum. The registration emails never get to me. Lately its like whenever I sign up for anything.

I don't have any junk mail settings enabled.

So its either every affiliate program & forum site these days is paranoid as heck & is using the most broadest of spam blocking lists....or MSN is blocking my registration emails to new sites.

Hoople

4:28 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

mike201 the questions piatkow asked you are referring to how your outbound emails are sent. Are you typing them in a webform at msn.com? Are you using a program on your PC to send your emails? If you are using a program how is it being delivered as the first hop? (your internet connection ISP, one of your domains or MSN).

The reason piatkow asked this is the 'sending IP' (first 'received from' in headers) has been a strong SPAM criteria for at least 10 years for many domains, longer for a few domains. Changing the first hop may be the cure :-)

As to your email address being on a 'global' list of known spammer the answer is likely no. At a single domain level, possibly yes. Practical size limits of publicly served SPAM blocking lists (bounded by DNS response time) prohibit this. Spamhaus and others do maintain and share 'The Register of Known Spam Operations' (ROKSO) aka the big fish in the SPAM pond.

MichaelBluejay

6:05 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

mike2010, if your problem is that mail you *receive* is going to your spam folder (or not arriving at all), the problem is not that your address is on a spam blacklist. If the mail is going to a spam folder, your mail provider has identified the *sender* as a spammer. If the mail is not being received at all, it's either not being sent properly (sender's fault) or received properly (mail provider's fault).

piatkow

9:48 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

If these are automated responses that are going astray then that is down to MSN spam filtering. Their filters are particularly agressive and reject a lot if automated messages without them going to your junk mail folder. All I can suggest is using an email provider that is a little more lax in this area for sign ups.