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An Idea for turning Spam you receive into profit.

Just struck me as a workable idea.

         

fearlessrick

11:40 pm on May 13, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I didn't know where to post this, so I thought maybe this would be an appropriate spot.

Since we all get more spam emails every day than we like, many from all kinds of exotic web addresses, how about just directing them into your junk mail file and setting your parameters for an autoresponse, sending an email back to all of these spammers with something along the lines of:

__________________________

Hello, thanks for your email and your interest in my website. You probably hadn't noticed, but we run a regular contest in which somebody may win up to $1000. All you have to do is visit the list of pages below and find the secret message. (Insert a list of pages on your site which have ads or affiliates) If you do, go to this page (list another page) and insert your email address and the secret message and if you're right you'll win.

Thanks again, and good luck

Yours truly, webmaster.

__________________________

OK, here's the explanation. Since these people have contacted you, sending a reply is not spam. Inviting them to engage in a contest in which (notice the wording) somebody MAY win up to $1000, is not lying. You actually can have a secret message on those pages, whatever it is, and you can have a winner if you like, but it's not necessary. Just send the spammers to your pages for increased traffic and maybe sales. It's organic and not spamming. In fact, it's anti-spamming.

On the winning page, where they should enter their email address and what they think the secret message is, that can go straight to a trash file or you could actually store and analyze the data. You also might want to put some special offer there and all the rules and fine print to make the whole thing legit.

I suggest changing the 10 or so pages you send people to every few days, so you don't get weird analytics, but, it should be good for traffic, at least.

Thoughts? Good idea? Bad? Why?

I think I might give it a try and see if I can monetize my incoming spam.

[edited by: fearlessrick at 11:54 pm (utc) on May 13, 2010]

LifeinAsia

11:45 pm on May 13, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Because about 99.9% of spam messages use forged/stolen/bogus e-mail addresses for the sender's address.

fearlessrick

11:55 pm on May 13, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but since the addresses are forged, etc., wouldn't the emails go to the original sender, embedded inside the header?

lammert

3:44 am on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

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There are no original sender lines in the header. Everything in the header can be forged. There is no checking mechanism to know which lines are genuine and which lines are made up by the spammer. This is because the standard for email headers was defined in an era when nobody thought of abuse of the system. Replies on spam posts will because of this header forging mostly end up in the mailbox of innocent people. Because of this, autoresponders are now frown upon by some spam blacklists and your mail server may endup in a blacklist by auto responding to these messages. That may affect your legitimate emails as well.

piatkow

5:56 am on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

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The proposal is spam in its own right. I have had my email addresses spoofed because it was in the address book of a customer with a compromised machine. My spam filters would probably zap the message but if it didn't I would promptly click on the "report as spam" button in my webmail.

MrHard

7:22 am on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)



Is there really someone sitting there watching? I always thought it was just a bot that sent and quickly moved on using a different email address each time.

piatkow

10:22 am on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Its just a bot of course.I don't think that fearlessrick had got as far as deconstructing a batch of headers to automate blocking or bouncing otherwise he would have spotted the flaw himself. Before I switched to an ISP that provided server side filtering (best thing I ever did in home computing)I wasted a lot of time working out how to filter spam for myself. I ended up blocking several countries including China, Russia, Romania and Brazil but it was still only the "tip of the iceberg".

I have had my address spoofed and bounce messages are a pain, I always made a point of reporting them to the oringinator's ISP as spam. Unfortunately a lot of people don't understand the concept of spoofing, on a music forum that I frequent occasionally there was a thread about a member's PC supposedly sending spam. Despite three posts explaining spoofing there were still people putting up messages saying " joe you have a virus you sent me a spam"