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Something's burning in my computer!

I smell a circuitboard burning, but can't find the source

         

MatthewHSE

3:55 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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For the last few days, I've been smelling an electrical burning smell periodically. It smells about identical to when I put a stick of RAM into a bad slot a few years ago and got an immediate stream of white smoke when I powered everything up.

I thought it was coming in the windows from some construction in the neighborhood, but this morning, a bit of sniffing narrowed the smell down to one of our computers. I took the case cover off, but there's such good airflow I can't smell anything at all inside the case. Evidently the burning smell is getting exhausted out the back of the case and getting trapped under the desk, so I can smell it in the room but not in the case.

Anyway, it's obviously not a catastrophic failure at the moment since the computer is continuing to work without any apparent problems. However, equally obvious is the fact that *something* is slowly burning up inside this particular computer.

How can I go about finding the faulty part so I can replace it, hopefully before any further damage takes place to other components?

Thanks,

Matthew

Leosghost

4:04 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Try looking / sniffing carefully at your in box power supply ..could well be transfo winding insulation giving out ..it's slow and less spectacular than bad slots ....how old is the box ?

Look at the voltages etc on each rail ..if any are near the limits ..( BIOS will tell you ) or Everest or similar ..

Transfo windings going down smell slightly "waxy" compared to straight forward burnt or melting insulation smell.

Frank_Rizzo

4:12 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yes, try sniffing the PSU first.

Of course do this with the power cable unplugged. More danger of a fan nipping at you rather than a shock though.

Install a temp app such as speedfan to see if that gives you clues for the cpu / mobo / disks.

What's the dust like on the fans and heatsink fins? Give it a good de-dusting with vacuum cleaner and see if that helps.

Leosghost

4:20 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Vague aromatic burning smells around the outside but not in the case are usually indicative of PSU ..because it's the nearest thing to the outflow ..actually unless you have a seperate outflow fan on your machine ? ..No ...then, the hot air is pulled off the CPU by the cooling fan ..likewise the graphic card is cooled by it's fan ..and the hot air from both of them and the MOBO and the HD'S) is then pulled out of the box via the PSU fan ..so if inside the case smells clean ..but the outflow is tainted ..then it's usually the PSU only as it's the last in line before "outside" ..

I was presuming the heatsink(s) were clean :) ..just like we all have backups ..we all have clean machines ;)) ..like Frank says ..a gentle clean with a vacuum cleaner wont hurt ..although hot dust has it's own smell ..( like convector heaters started again after the summer if they haven't been dusted first ) ..sort of acrid and "confined" as opposed to aromatic trannny winding insulation or capacitors .:)

Just a thought ..I've had some PSU fans run intermittently on me before ( and sometimes they didn't start up at all )..when your machine is running ..put your face about 6 inches ( 15 cms ) from the back and see if there is any breeze ..

If you cant get your head under the desk then wipe the inside of your wrist with a wet sponge ( makes it more sensitive to air flow ) and put your wrist in the way of the outflow ..in case there isn't one ..

If you have another PSU ( spares are always usefull to have around for each machine you own ) swap it and see ..

kaled

5:39 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Forget about it...

If it was the motherboard it would have died by now. If it's the power supply (seems likely) then a lump of grease/flux has probably fallen onto something hot (or maybe there's a dead insect/spider in there). In this case, the smell will pass in a couple of days. If it's more serious, just fix it when it dies.

Kaled.

J_RaD

7:23 pm on Aug 13, 2009 (gmt 0)



9 times outa 10 that smell is coming from the PSU.

if any other compoment makes that smell it stops functioning on the spot.

MatthewHSE

1:17 pm on Aug 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the help everyone. The unanimous opinion was correct; the power supply died completely this morning. Hopefully it didn't kill anything else on its way out. (Actually it almost killed me with those toxic-smelling fumes - whew!)

Well, off to buy another one....fortunately our small town does have a computer store with a decent PSU in stock!

JS_Harris

7:09 am on Aug 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Until you have it up and running smell free you still don't know for sure what's gone bad. Computers have failsafes that won't allow them to boot up if something is outside acceptable tolerances. I'm not saying it isn't the power supply but before you spend money on parts it's not a bad idea to test the suspected problem parts first.

Search for "testing a computer power supply" for some methods to see if it works on its own or can run a fan etc.