Forum Moderators: phranque
Yahoo mail:
For several years now, I have a few scripts that send me 20-30 action items that I rely on daily to handle daily tasks. Worked great all this time. A couple weeks ago, the emails stopped arriving. It doesn't go into the bulk folder. It doesn't come back to the server as undeliverable. I have no way to whitelist the address. It just disappeared. I moved to my gmail account and it works again..at least for now.
Gmail:
Even worse. I put a note in my calendar for a daily task that I have a reminder set. The reminder goes to my gmail. gmail puts in the bulk folder. Talk about a false positive. I would have thought that gmail can tell when google generates the email themselves.
If this mail is in any way important to your livelihood it would be better to run it through a paid e-mail provider. Use a Bayesian filtering system that you can train like POPFile and store the mail on your local machine.
If you're still keen on the idea of having the Gmail or Yahoo webmail interface you could still forward copies of mail to these accounts as a backup.
The Yahoo thing does concern me though because if my server's emails don't arrive to Yahoo, that means some of my customers who use my webapps may not get the emails either.
The reason I posted here is that I know both Yahoo and Google watch this forum and I was hoping it could prompt them to fix the bugs.
I've done my fair share of reporting spam and removing real messages from the trash of both Yahoo and Gmail accounts. Sometimes it seems that they never learn. Gmail at least seems to be making efforts in the right direction with this. I've nearly given up on Yahoo in this regard.
Gmail and Yahoo do white-list their own domains to a certain extent. They both use DomainKeys to sign outgoing mail. I know that Gmail uses SPF, but I'm not sure that Yahoo does. These measures alone should improve the relevancy of their filters, or at least allow them to raise flags for user action. The problem with both of these systems is that the user doesn't get to fiddle with the advanced areas of the use of these technologies.