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Bretts 26 Steps - G) Outbound Links

How important is this now?

         

adamnichols45

11:00 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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How important is this now?

G) Outbound Links:
From every page, link to one or two high ranking sites under that particular keyword. Use your keyword in the link text (this is ultra important for the future)?

DXL

10:20 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's interesting that someone brings this up. I've gone over that thread countless times, and I have often wondered just how much of it still applies to this day, considering those were the days when most people were at 56k and SE algos were different. Namely having outbound links to high ranking sites, and having a 100 page site already prepared before you launch as opposed to adding on to it.

I never quite understood the purpose of outbound links to high traffic sites, or why some sites have pages with links to every major search engine.

youfoundjake

10:50 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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A side take on the links to high ranking sites, I did notice that Mcaffee has a software installer that when you search for something in google, it gives a site report about the results, and one of the criteria it reports is that the site links to other trusted sites.

stever

8:07 am on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Regarding BT's "step" about outbound links, I find it quite prophetic (considering when it was written) in that it relates to the character and the neighbourhood of a site, as well as the value of altruistic links within text.

DXL

5:37 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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So its to my advantage to link to Google or other high ranking sites, for the sake of being considered part of a "good neighborhood"?

pageoneresults

5:43 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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So its to my advantage to link to Google or other high ranking sites, for the sake of being considered part of a "good neighborhood"?

No.

But, it would be to your advantage to link to other sites that are of value to your visitors. Usually those sites will be of an authoritative value and provide a natural relationship based on Trust. ;)

annej

1:02 am on Mar 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Look for quality sites with pages related to your topic. Make it natural.

I firmly believe that Google is looking at outgoing links, their anchor text and the information on the site you are linking to. It won't help to link to a PR 10 page that is totally unrelated to your site.

Brett_Tabke

3:30 pm on Mar 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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- Notice all the 950 stuff?
- And all the Semantic web stuff?
- And all the recip links are bad/good/better stuff?
- Toolbar ratings patents, and another new patent every month?
- Trust/Sand/Grand/Widget/Box This/Box That/Penalty Box flavor of the month...etc. ad nauseum.

Notice that no one can point a definative finger at anything and show you why?

As SEO's, we have been through two major phases of optimization:
- You are who your site says your are (keywords = search 1.0, Altavista)
- You are what your links say you are (anchor text = search 2.0, Google)

While google has pushed the pendulum as far as possible into the search 2.0 links corner, both of the above two can be manipulated. Something has to be in there to counter the manipulation and to keep sites honest - a gatekeeper.

Links : their belief in links and their reliance on links are the corner stone of the search engine. It is the original Larry Page Rank algo. The heart of the google rankings system is about mining the relationships between websites. The majority of the Google Search Engine algo still relies on links. Google is so link happy, that to hold the position that their search engine doesn't use every form of a link - including outbound links - as a portion of the algo, is a failure to understand how much importance Google puts on links.

If google calcs that there is an 90% chance your site is about Oranges and a good portion of your links are to car sites, it is a safe bet than there is a flag in the algo to mark your site as suspect and bury it (say, around 950). I am sure you can season the idea to-your-taste with dials and knobs on all those variables. They aren't newbies at this kids, and outbound links are massive indicators.

> how much is still applicable.

I have read it and reread it - even started on a series of article about it. I keep geetting stopped, because aside from a few of the dated stats and specific services mentioned, I wouldn't change much of anything there. The concept of fresh content is timeless seo.

DXL

9:06 pm on Mar 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google is so link happy, that to hold the position that their search engine doesn't use every form of a link - including outbound links - as a portion of the algo, is a failure to understand how much importance Google puts on links. If google calcs that there is an 90% chance your site is about Oranges and a good portion of your links are to car sites, it is a safe bet than there is a flag in the algo to mark your site as suspect and bury it

A good post, and probably the only that actually deals with the question at hand and explains WHY outbound links are important. But that raises another question: How much of that is theory/speculation and how much is what we concretely know about Google's algorithm in the past or present?

annej

1:14 am on Mar 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Some of their patents indicate they are using or intend to use it.