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bgd2006

5:48 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I activated the allowed sites feature with my own domains and now I have a list of about 30 URL's showing up as unauthorized sites. Some of these are simply IP Adresses, others are social networking sites, and some are email addresses like: webmail.aol.com. I'm assuming that these are framed pages?

My content gets shared in many different places so how do I keep an accurate list of allowed sites?

If this many sites are being blocked after only one week the allowed sites feature seems kind of useless.

icedowl

5:54 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've found that a lot of the IP Addresses belong to Google, probably cache pages. I've added those to my allowed sites list. Same for others that belong to the other major search engines. I've got one showing that I suspect belongs to Bing but I have yet to add it to the allowed list.

You'd think that Google would've automatically allowed their own IP addresses, but I guess that takes a bit of common sense and simple logic on their part.

bgd2006

6:14 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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icedowl you are correct in that many belong to Google but there are alot for Yahoo, Microsoft, and AOL, as well. Unless someone can think of a reason not to I guess it makes sense to add these URL's to the allowed list.

explorador

6:16 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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icedowl, many of the ips are the SEs with their translation or cache functions

icedowl

6:32 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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icedowl, many of the ips are the SEs with their translation or cache functions

Yes, I knew that. I don't see too many from the translation functions but others might.

bgd2006

7:50 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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A few of mine, maybe 3 or 4, were translation functions.

IanCP

1:21 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Well on another forum today we were discussing Site Diagnostics/Blocked URL

I had another look at mine and find I've over 9 pages of listings all from:

http:/ / translate. googleusercontent. com/ translate

Really makes it totally useless. I wish ASA would draw it to someone's attention.

IanCP

11:39 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ASA

Is there any realistic expectation of this vexing problem being resolved?

IanCP

5:02 am on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ASA Please, pretty please

kd454

12:31 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I swear since I read this tread, and included the google ip's and bing my earnings have increased just a bit. Anyone else experience this?

AndyA

3:36 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Bumping because I'd really like to know specifically if outside sites should be included as allowed. I see a lot of Google Translate, bingj, and lots of IP numbers on my reports. I assumed that this was from people viewing my site through a cache or by people who don't read English. So if ads were clicked, I wouldn't get credit for them.

My clicks are way down recently, and I can't afford to miss even one click at this point, yet I'm concerned about adding a bunch of sites as allowed in case of fraud, which I would have no control over but would be held responsible for since that site is allowed.

bgd2006

3:50 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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AndyA - I understand your point but is it really a concern adding these sites because all the people that have chosen "allow any site" are theoretically getting credit for them?

AndyA

4:11 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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@ bgd2006:

The problem with allowing all sites is that if someone copies your HTML and sticks it on a site in a bad neighborhood, for instance one with parasitic downloads or something, Google sees your publisher ID and since you've allowed all sites, your account gets shut down.

It never occurred to me that I needed to specifically identify which sites my ads should appear on. But since I have, if any ads wind up on a bad site, it's not held against me. (Or at least, I would hope it isn't held against me. Since the clicks aren't counted, I wouldn't think it would create a problem.)

Even if there are only 10-20 page views a day from sites that aren't allowed, if you get even 1-2 clicks a day from them, that's 30-60 at the end of every month. It adds up. Seems worthwhile to me to add those sites, as long as it doesn't put your account in jeopardy. That's why I'd like some clarification on the subject.

bgd2006

6:50 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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@AndyA:

I understand and agree that clarification would be nice. I also understand the security issue which is why I just started using the allowed sites feature. I always thought what could be the harm in allowing another site to use my code...it'll just mean more revenue for me. What was I thinking?

The point I was trying to make was that by allowing the Google Translate, Bing, Yahoo, AOL, etc...sites you probably aren't doing any harm because everyone running AdSense with all sites allowed has also allowed those sites.

I wouldn't allow some site I didn't know but I would have to think that allowing sites owned by the companies named above has to be safe.

kd454

1:08 am on Dec 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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you probably aren't doing any harm because everyone running AdSense with all sites allowed has also allowed those sites.

These sites/ip's of google, are just showing my ads on my site correct? I dont understand how adding Google own ip could get you band, it would be a hard lesson.

snickles121

11:30 pm on Dec 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Im getting then same problem of getting google ip addresses blocked by adsense today. Why would this show up this way? If I want to allow it in my list do I ad google.com or the ip address number itself.

Lapizuli

1:09 am on Feb 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Early this morning, 6 clicks that earned nothing appeared on my account - clicks that did not come from any of my channels, which has never happened to me in my memory. Though I dug into all my pages and found a stray AdSense unit and nixed it, that blog wasn't being indexed currently and the chances of its being the source are slim.

I couldn't figure out where they might be coming from. So I got rid of all the outside Google-seeming IPs from my Allowed Sites list, just in case.

But I really would like to know if these are indeed risky to add, or if there is a list somewhere of Google URLs and IPs that it's safe to allow.

Lapizuli

7:55 pm on Apr 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Bump...anybody know what Google AdSense thinks about adding to our allowed sites list such websites as translate.googleusercontent.com, www.bing.com, and the various IPs that turn out to be Google Search pages? It seems as though there should be a list of "safe" IPs that Google deems trustworthy. Or am I looking at this feature the wrong way? I know the point is that we have to decide if a site is trustworthy, but if it's a cached page or translated page or whatever, shouldn't Google say "that's a safe one to add, it's us, so go ahead"?

purplecape

8:47 pm on Apr 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Lapizuli, it occurs to me that Google couldn't make a blanket statement that a certain Google IP is safe. What if someone is using the Google translate function in some nefarious way with your site's content? I don't know what that would be, but others might. Also, some site owners might have different ideas about what would be OK and what wouldn't, and wouldn't want Google saying anything one way or the other.

FWIW I added "*googleusercontent.com" (if I remember the URL correctly to my list some time ago.

Lapizuli

12:35 am on Apr 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

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@purplecape,

Thanks - that makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure I need a "certified safe" statement, since no site is.

It would be nice, but maybe just a "Hey yeah, this is us, and when you see this showing, it means blah blah, so you're probably safe, but if there are any suspicious clicks, you're still responsible."

Or even "This is us, but we recommend you not put any site on your AS list that you didn't publish onto directly or knowingly, so you should just take those clicks as a loss."

Or whatever.

Maybe I'm looking for a little more guidance as to how to use the Allowed Sites feature so it DOES do what it was meant to do. I've been thinking of not getting paid for those cached and translated pages as my way of "paying" for the feature. It just seems AdSense may not have intended these clicks to fall through the cracks this way.

And again, maybe I'm not understanding the way it's supposed to work.