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Interest based advertising? - the same ad following me

and my observations

         

frakilk

7:26 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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About 3 weeks ago I remember clicking on a Google ad (not on my site!) which vaguely interested me. After visiting the site through the ad I left it after a few minutes because it ended up being something I wasn't interested in. Since then I have seen that same ad follow me all around the Web i.e. on sites with Adsense.

Here's my worry for interest-based advertising (if that's what is causing the ad to follow me around), I have no intention of clicking on the ad again. This means the publisher is losing a possible click. If this happens on a grand scale shouldn't users be clicking less and publishers ending up with less money?

Since April 8th my eCPM has taken a tumble. I know that Google are just phasing in interest-based advertising slowly but I have a sinking feeling it's related.

HuskyPup

7:39 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)



but I have a sinking feeling it's related.

Funny you should write that since I had a similar experience yesterday.

I was on one of my sites and noticed a very nice 728 x 90 leaderboard banner ad, a few minures later I visited a completely different type of widget site and low and behold:

The same 1 x banner ad for my widgets

Plus the same company with a 160 x 600 skyscraper banner

PLUS

The same company again with a 300 x 250 medium rectangle.

Three ads all from the same company all on the same page for a site that had nothing to do with the advertised widgets.

Now don't try and convince me something's not quite right!

arieng

7:57 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was surprised to see this thread here. I received a call this morning pitching services from a company named [preemptive-snip]. They have a technology that was totally new to me, and I was immediately turned off.

They put a tracking pixel on your site and if a visitor leaves without buying something, they claim to show your ads to that person on other sites they visit. According to the rep, they have hundreds of thousands of partner sites (some top-tier) that will show these ads. So yes, ads will start following you around the internet and there is nothing you can do about it!

I requested more information, just to get the skinny, but this seems to smell of borderline malware...even if they're only using a cookie.

CWebguy

7:58 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, it's all part of the one world government thing. I read about it in 1984.

Cheers,

swa66

8:45 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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As a site owner we can opt out of showing the behavior based ads, maybe it's better to do that instead of participating in this experiment that's doomed to fail.

ken_b

9:03 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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As a site owner we can opt out of showing the behavior based ads,

But the AdSense Help [google.com] page says:

You can opt out of showing ads that are based on user interest categories (e.g. 'sports enthusiasts'). In turn, Google will not use visitation information from your sites to help create interest categories. However,

you cannot opt out

of showing ads to users based on their previous interactions with the advertiser, such as visits to an advertiser's website.


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It's just marketing spin to say "previous interactions" isn't the same as "interest based" in this case.

[edited by: bakedjake at 9:19 pm (utc) on April 28, 2009]
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signor_john

9:14 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)



It's just marketing spin to say "previous interactions" isn't the same as "interest based" in this case.

Not if they're talking about two different methods or processes.

You may have your own broad definition of "interest-based ads," but Google uses the term to mean a specific type of advertising.

ken_b

10:00 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The OP said...
I remember clicking on a Google ad (not on my site!) .... After visiting the site through the ad ... I have seen that same ad follow me all around the Web i.e. on sites with Adsense.
bolding added

The page I quoted says....

you cannot opt out

of showing ads to users based on their previous interactions with the advertiser, such as visits to an advertiser's website.


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Seems pretty clear to me.

swa66

10:04 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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You can opt out of showing ads that are based on user interest categories (e.g. 'sports enthusiasts')

you cannot opt out of showing ads to users based on their previous interactions with the advertiser

Clarity in these behavioral targeting mechanisms (apparently there's more than just one ?) really would be useful. ASA: let's start by defining it all a lot more clear. There are implications to what is legal to do around the world, being unclear about it means the legality of using adsense is clear as mud.

Scurramunga

10:58 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ASA: let's start by defining it all a lot more clear

Yes, Please.

frakilk

5:30 am on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yes we need a clarification by ASA please.