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Considering Google are reporting increased profits will an AdSenser please post that they are doing far better?
This month has been a record month for AS revenue thus far so hopefully today keeps up with the trend...
In which general sectors are you?Mainly business and technical standards. It's a small niche. Traffic, eCPM and overall revenue are up. CTR has stayed pretty constant for several years. I'm a retired consultant in the field.
However - I take the increase with a 'disclaimer' in my head that says "This won't last. Bank what you can now."
AdSense is dead. It was good while it lasted.
Ditto.
AdSense is dead. It was good while it lasted.
To judge from Google's quarterly reports, AdSense is far from dead; it's flourishing. However, the program is evolving in ways that don't benefit all publishers equally. Just as important, the current economic climate is bound to have an impact on some audiences--and on the publishers who cater to (or, in some cases, who try to exploit) those audiences.
Double the page impressions of New Year's Day however the same earnings to within a couple of Dollars.
These are truly atrocious CTR rates and I am beginning to believe that this has absolutely nothing to do with the economic situation. Many of us saw last year during the Glitch just how much Google could manipulate and affect our earnings when we had done absolutely nothing wrong.
Has something been turned too far again?
Why would some publishers see such huge falls meanwhile others are remaining steady or doing extremely well?
And don't go anywhere near my widget subjects, people do not come to my sites simply to browse, it is a deliberate journey, maybe one of factual discovery, but nonetheless a deliberate visit plus our B&M sales have not been affected whatsoever.
Honestly, I'm fed-up with Google's assertions of click fraud, accidental clicks, clickable areas etc. Over the years I have fallen from a 6%+ CTR to now just over 2% and no matter how much extra traffic I get I can't keep up with the CTR reducing all the time.
At this rate I would be paying Google within 18 months just to display their ads however that is not going to happen! Plans are afoot...again:-)
The CTR and eCPM are extremely low. I'm getting about the same page views and I don't believe it is the economy, either.
I have two more months to decide what to do. Usually December picks up for me, but if it doesn't this year, I may try something else next year.
These are truly atrocious CTR rates and I am beginning to believe that this has absolutely nothing to do with the economic situation. Many of us saw last year during the Glitch just how much Google could manipulate and affect our earnings when we had done absolutely nothing wrong.
I agree it's probably not the economic situation re: CTR.
However, I've been watching you talk about what I think is a "fictitious glitch" for a FULL year now, and you seem to be exactly where you where one year ago.
What does that tell you? If it was me, I'd be concluding that my thinking over the last year (actually way longer than that judging by your posts) is just plain wrong, and leading me to the wrong conclusions).
I can't tell you what YOUR answers are, except that you aren't finding them, so maybe it's time to change your thinking?
Why would some publishers see such huge falls meanwhile others are remaining steady or doing extremely well?
Do you really want an answer? Or do you simply want to blame google for "glitching" you. You're smart enough to think of reasons why this could be happening without google doing much to cause it. Why not try a new approach and answer the question for yourself without the "google's fault" thing. Then retool your strategies.
Honestly, I'm fed-up with Google's assertions of click fraud, accidental clicks, clickable areas etc. Over the years I have fallen from a 6%+ CTR to now just over 2% and no matter how much extra traffic I get I can't keep up with the CTR reducing all the time.At this rate I would be paying Google within 18 months just to display their ads however that is not going to happen! Plans are afoot...again:-)
You've been saying the same things for so long, it's hard to believe you. I understand your frustration. Our CTR is down about 1/3, as is our revenue from adsense, but then again, this will be our best online revenue month in our history due to other things we've done. While you've been threatening/promising "changes", we've been altering how we do business, which is why we are WAY ahead of where we were.
I think that if I thought you were sincere in considering alternative other than the mythical google glitch repeated, I'd be more inclined to offer explanations of why CRT and revenue is falling (although I hate to say this but there isn't much you and I can do to bring back the "ole days".). I'm not trying to be mean, here, but I have to reiterate that a lot of the "smart" folks who don't blame everything on google have given up on providing insight and advice to people such as yourself.
signed.
frustrated with adsense, but more frustrated with bleating.
I've been watching you talk about what I think is a "fictitious glitch" for a FULL year now, and you seem to be exactly where you where one year ago.
Nope, you have not! The Glitch occurred in mid-October 2007 and went through until early January 2008 and it has only been during the last couple of weeks I have raised the co-incidence of it re-occurring with the noticeable metric reductions many have posted.
Whilst, for me, there have been some inexplicable fluctuations this year, all the same it has been pretty consistent until these recent heavy falls.
I can't tell you what YOUR answers are, except that you aren't finding them
Unfortunately the lack of Google transparency can lead for many to wonder what they may have done wrong/incorrect when all other vital signs for one's websites are they are doing extremely well.
If this were only a few hundred Dollars per month earnings I would remove AdSense immediately and not bother with it any longer however it is not therefore I have to consider when, how and with what I replace it if I deem the necessity.
I must have missed that post in this thread.
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Unfortunately the lack of Google transparency can lead for many to wonder what they may have done wrong/incorrect when all other vital signs for one's websites are they are doing extremely well.
I think there are answers to your many questions. I think if you do a mindshift in how you think, you can figure them out yourself.
I'm guessing you won't get much help providing those answers, since it doesn't look like your tune or your thinking will change.
I wish you luck. I know it's frustrating. It's annoying for all of us who are seeing CTR and revenue drops.
...but if you want to dig the same hole deeper, and continue to complain about the hole getting deeper, why would anyone continue to enter into an effort to answer you questions?
BTW, the business trick is to stay AHEAD of the wave, not react to the wave after it has hit.
...or complain about the wave hitting.
Anyway, good luck. I gave it a try to encourage you to think out of your "box" and unless you do so, nobody can help you out, if that indeed is what you want.
Cheers.
These are truly atrocious CTR rates and I am beginning to believe that this has absolutely nothing to do with the economic situation. Many of us saw last year during the Glitch just how much Google could manipulate and affect our earnings when we had done absolutely nothing wrong.
Yep. Something is fishy.
For exactly three weeks the CTR on my main page stepped down 20%. Never before in the 3+ years with Adsense has the CTR moved below that magical threshold of X%, except for the first six weeks where Adsense apparently was figuring out what ads might work. After that, the CTR was lingering around the X% with unexpected accuracy. Until 1st October, 2008. Since then, 30 day averages have dropped like a rock.
However - for the last few days, or to be more precise: since Saturday, things are back to normal in the CTR department.
And isn't it funny that EPC is seeing new heights? Average EPC for October is setting a new record for 2009.
Unfortunately the lack of Google transparency can lead for many to wonder what they may have done wrong/incorrect when all other vital signs for one's websites are they are doing extremely well.
I think the main purpose of threads like this one is to make people aware what they are signing up to when applying for Google Adsense, or when dealing with Google.
I very much like to put Google on display for what they are: a money greedy machine that treats (some of) their partners like dirt. Don't get me wrong - that's what capitalism is all about. And there is nothing wrong with that per se. Except when you try to disguise yourself as "do gooders", trumpeting an omnipresent "do no evil" to the rest of the world.
I very much like to put Google on display for what they are: a money greedy machine that treats (some of) their partners like dirt. Don't get me wrong - that's what capitalism is all about. And there is nothing wrong with that per se. Except when you try to disguise yourself as "do gooders", trumpeting an omnipresent "do no evil" to the rest of the world.
This is SO old, so pointless. As a business person I have better things to do than bash other companies and express opinions as facts. Sad.
Good luck. I'm off to increase my revenues. Definitely a record month overall. Google has now dropped to about 35% of total revenues, down from a high of about 80%.
Happy I am. Let me know when complaining and bashing companies (while of course taking their money) actually resuts in more revenue. When complaining = money, I'm there for ya brudder.
This week, my numbers are so screwed/slanted, I'd have better chances of predicting tomorrow's lottery numbers.
