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Getting your site indexed simply putting some Adsense on it.

An ebook I recently read suggested this...does it work?

         

dirtyc

10:21 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is getting "spidered" and getting "indexed" the same thing? I've read a number of free ebooks lately on SEO and PPC and one of them said that the quickest and easiest way to get your site "spidered" is simply to place some adSense code on it.

Obviously Google must visit your site to know what relevenat ads to put on it. However, the question I'm asking is an issue of context. The ebook was about SEO and in SEO the first goal is to get indexed. The book used the word "spidered." However, in the context of attempting to get your site to show up in the SE's, it came across like getting "indexed."

GiveMeMore

10:35 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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don't think so, my site has been running adsense since day 1 and that was 3 months ago and i am still not indexed

leolapinos

10:37 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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nope, #*$! really. I have a PR6 site I use to get sites indexed asap. Within a couple of days the others sites usually are up in the Google index. I actually got Google traffic after three days on all my new sites this way, as long as they are subject related of course.

GiveMeMore

11:46 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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leolapinos what do you mean by you use it to get the others indexed? just by linking from a PR6 you get a site indexed in a couple of days? I'll pay for that I've been waiting for 3 months :(

wyweb

12:10 am on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)



just by linking from a PR6 you get a site indexed in a couple of days?

if not sooner...

I get new sites indexed within 24 hours because of the network I have linking to them. I literally see them showing up in search the next day... not showing up very high mind you, but showing up nonetheless...

leadegroot

11:34 am on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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'spidering' is when the bot comes around and looks at your site. Evidence is entries in your logs
'indexing' is when the engine processes those visits and adds your site to their database, or index. Evidence is appearing (even really poorly) in the SERPs.
I've not seen adsense help a page get crawled, but, then, I have high PR sites to start a new site with too - sorry.
In theory, it shouldn't help - mediabot crawls for adsense, not for the general index (cache aside - there is a lot of misunderstanding of what the cache does for Google)
In practice - we don't know, but I don't think it helps.

dirtyc

12:17 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks everyone for the replies.

Leader: thank you for clearing up the difference between being "spidered" and "indexed." I didn't figure it was as easy as just adding adsense to get indexed. I just wanted to clear up that shadown of a doubt I had. Intuitively, I already knew this. Good rule of thumb: if it sounds like the technique is too good to be true: it is. Second rule of thumb: if an idea sounds really easy, but doesn't work in practice, write an ebook about it, call yourself a guru, and sell it to the suckers looking for the easy way (there never is one).

leadegroot

1:41 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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write an ebook about it

<perks up>

So, do you write an ebook telling them its crap, or do you write one about "this great technique"?
(or both, and pitch them at different markets?)
;)

SteveWh

5:53 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My experience was that when I first launched my site it was indexed well within 8 weeks on Google, and even faster elsewhere. Then I added AdSense code to the pages. My best guess was that Google took that as an indication that the site had a financial motive, whereupon they imposed the "sandbox effect". I was almost immediately knocked way down in the Google index, to the point of losing almost all pages from the index. My traffic dropped 90%, from where it has only slowly begun to creep back up after 6 months. There were numerous confounding factors that made it difficult to determine the true reason for the loss of standing, but it did occur immediately after joining AdSense, so that was obviously one of the possibilities.

As others have said, Google tries hard NOT to raise suspicions that you have to join AdSense in order to get indexed well. If that were the case, it would reflect badly on them and their business practices. So they keep the various parts of their company's operations partitioned from each other.

Edit: If you put AdSense code on your pages, you WILL get spidered/crawled very soon by the Google Mediapartners robot, because they have to know what's on the page in order to serve ads to it. But the information obtained by the Mediapartners crawl won't migrate to the Google indexing mechanism any faster than it would otherwise have done.

[edited by: SteveWh at 5:58 am (utc) on Nov. 9, 2006]

gamiziuk

7:52 am on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Adsense uses a different "spider-robot" than the Google Search Department.

So indexing by one robot has no effect on the other one.

There is also a separate spider-robot for the Image Search.