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<added>Well, OK, you answered my question...
[edited by: humblebeginnings at 5:35 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2006]
Chapman - Northeast, US
Well, I guess it's time to have some tea.
Anyone else?
Yep, we must be on the same server:-(
My logs are showing a normal day whereas AdSense thinks it's a bad weekend!
Someone change the rubber band...or give it a kick.
Are those that are seeing lower earnings this month buying traffic or getting natural traffic?
I suspected a while back that payouts are getting less for sites that are getting traffic from adwords?
Actually earnings are normal here but traffic is down about 20 percent? At least according to adsense and I dont bother with other counters that are easy to read across all sites.
[edited by: Genuine1 at 6:35 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2006]
Keep waking up hoping to find a change for the better and only see further declines for 4 months straight - every week is lower than the prior.
One thing I notice... of my 200 channels 75% have the capability of multi-dollar clicks. It used to be that a significant portion of those channels would get many of those clicks per day.
Now I'm lucky if 15 get the large clicks - all of them still get them once in a while but just less frequently and with less visitors.
I attribute this specific issue to the continued expansion of Adsense publishers diluting the available high-value clicks (and advertisers in general).
Combine that with G's intent to prevent arbitrage and there I sit.
Does anyone need a database consultant?
Sailor, at least you have some talent.
My day job is with the government.
At least you have some job security :)
Today has started off really good for me....Hope it stays that way.
Ann
Maybe big adwords spenders in our niches quit running ads?
I'm seeing more and more single ads taking up the whole 336x280 ad block with BIG title letters.
These ads remind me of yahoo's run of network ads. However, these ads all match the most general concept of my site (barely).
I believe G is purposely killing sites that do arbitrage with these ads. These are name brand companies though - you'd recognize each one if I mentioned them. But the ads are so obnoxious and not really on-target that no one clicks on them.
Blocking them improves CTR but likely lowers EPC since there is less competition for the space - catch 22
Anyone else seeing this ads more and more?
I really think that google is definitely going after pure arbitrage sites. And doing so by sending them less well targeted and lower click through ads.
I think this because when I look at a few mfas in my various fields they have different, ads to my own sites where they used to be identical. It seems algos are getting fussier. Not sure if its about content or about trustrank, pagerank, conversions or what though.
I see a few of them now and then when working on my sites and they don't earn diddly - but from my stats they aren't shown very often at all. I have had to block some that had no possible relationship to my content but were being shown far too often, others I've let them give up on their own. I haven't tried to have them removed as they haven't been much of a nuisance - and maybe one will show up someday that actually does something worthwhile. I still have hope.
Is it still true (or did I dream it) that an advertiser can target 1,000 impressions for only a quarter?
As for stats being stuck today, I haven't noticed that at all.
I attribute this specific issue to the continued expansion of Adsense publishers diluting the available high-value clicks (and advertisers in general).I agree and think this is something that we should all assume to be true as part of our biz plan. I'd also ad that as more people jump on the free money train the value of an impression or click goes down for the people who pay for them, combined with the increased competition on our side I would expect the average site to be in constant decline before any conspiracy theories are accounted for.
I have site targeting blocked - but I do occasionally see a few cpm ads trickle in - 1cent here 2cents there.
The problem with these ads is they show on 90% of the pages! no variety, only crap. I cycle through the pages and that is all I see.
With four ads per block at least one or two are usually pretty good.
I haven't talked to google about this cause I'm afraid I'd be thrown completely out of adsense for telling them what I F^%$## ing think of them.
ps. who would want to target an MFA arbritrage site (made in 2000) anyway?
So...
How do you explain my genuine original content sites (unchanged since before google nevermind adsense) have gone from around $2.6k a month to $3.6k a month over a three year period? Without changing a thing for three years.
I think the google adsense algo/bots are learning to recognise the difference between content, filler masquerading as real site content, and mfas... And smartpricing or ad targeting does the rest!
I think in the future building real sites for your visitors will become more and more important. In the same way that magazines work. Good ones get paid more than the recently launched rag that lasts about 6 months.
The sites that people naturally link to, and the ones that are top in their fields, or the ones that offer some real user value are the ones it seems are currently doing well. At least one or two of my freinds sites fit this description and like myself see a stead increase in income.
All the others are seemingly doing worse? Judjing by the stories of falling income I have been reading lately. Ask yourself, would you want to bookmark your site? Would you be exited enough to want to add free links to it?
In some other threads "elsewhere" there are bunches of pure arbitrage guys coming to the same conclusion. They could be right!
I just logged-in and it told me the last time I had logged-in was 4th October when it was actually only a few hours ago!
This AdSense gets weirder and weirder...
(Edit due to beer/spelling/general beerness problems!)
[edited by: Genuine1 at 12:01 am (utc) on Oct. 28, 2006]
