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120x240 only showing 1 ad (vs. 2)

Does NOT mesh well with my site

         

Hubie

7:53 am on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What am I to do?

The 120x600 vertical skyscraper is too long to fit on my pages. 120x240 is perfect.

But it is randomly display 1 ad (in the middle of the space) instead of 2. This is a problem only b/c I designed my site so these ads blend in, and it's hard to blend them in to my nav-bar when it changes from 1 to 2 ads.

120x600 wont do that, but again, that's too big, and 120x240 looks awkward on my site showing one ad.

What to do? add a button? I really dont want to do that.

Khensu

10:00 am on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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2 125x125 ads with no space in between.

That will insure you have 2 ads.

The Algo is hoping that it can attract a click better with just one ad instead of 2.

Hubie

12:15 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Would going with two 125x125 hinder my CTR? Or will that pay out just the same as a 120x240?

berto

1:27 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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2 125x125 ads with no space in between.

125x125 is too wide for my sidebar.

That will insure you have 2 ads.

Not necessarily. Depending on the niche and the page topic, a second ad might not display at all.

My biggest gripe about this one-ad-in-a-two-ad-slot scheme is the vertical centering of the single ad. That does not blend in with my site design at all. I wish there were an option to make the single ad flush top, leaving empty space in the bottom half of the 120x240 ad space.

jomaxx

3:21 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Once again, there's no need to micromanage how AdSense works or "blend in" your ads to this great a degree. IMO a better approach is to come up with a design that looks OK even if the ad block isn't maxed out.

I've experimented with having multiple blocks next to each other in order to solve a different problem, but the multiple "Ads by Google" lines was a dealbreaker.

koan

3:28 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just a thought, not accusing anyone, but if your design depends so much on there being 2 ads instead of the merged one at times, could it be that your design might be calling undue attention to the ads in some way, like arrows or photos... which is forbidden?

berto

6:38 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Um, no.

On some pages, I place a 120x240 vertical banner in the left sidebar, just below my site navigation. In the right sidebar, I have various affiliate ads, which all line up vertically, with no extraneous space in between.

So, with my site design, it just looks stupid to have a single Adsense ad floating somewhere in the left sidebar below my site menu. I want the single ad to rise to the top of the 120x240 ad space, with just emptiness following.

And, no, I am not about to redo my hard-won site design just to accommodate this 120x240 ad quirkiness.

jomaxx

6:58 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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berto, I assume you the same person as Hubie? (Huberto, maybe?) Otherwise I'm not sure why you're responding as if you're the OP.

[edited by: jomaxx at 7:03 pm (utc) on Sep. 5, 2006]

dibbern2

7:03 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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From this and your other posts, I have to ask: why don't you just take a pass on AdSense? It doesn't seem right for you: you keep asking how to modify it beyond the rules of the program.

netmeg

7:05 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hubie - you're obsessing. I told you it looks good. Chill, dude; give it a chance to work for you.

berto

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berto, I assume you the same person as Hubie? (Huberto, maybe?) Otherwise I'm not sure why you're responding as if you're the OP.

No, two different people.

The OP and I both agree that a single ad in a 120x240 two-ad space looks awkward.

In my case, it wouldn't look awkward at all if the single ad displayed at the top of the 120x240 space, not vertically centered in the middle.

incrediBILL

8:44 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You can never count on the number or ads per display unit as Google randomly varies them such as leaderboards with 4 units show 3 now and then.

Hubie

8:44 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Berto hit the nail on the head. Exactly how I feel.

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Netmeg - you would be obsessed too if you saw how poorly my 120x240 is performing! I usually have a 1/3 to 2/3 at worst (50/50 split at best) with leaderboard getting the bulk of the hits vs. the 125x240.

Since my latest change...Leaderboard is getting 95% of the clicks (120x240 getting about 5%).

If anyone has run into a situation like this, help help help!

Hubie the Adsense Nubie

Khensu

8:57 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If your letterbord is doing well then scrap the other ad and put a link unit there.

Just an idea.

Hubie

9:32 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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and a good idea. but i've been there and done that, link units just didnt do well there. it's that damn 1 ad in a 2 ad block area (see original post about this!)

argh. the only thing that did do well there was the 120x600, but that's wayyy too long for my page

Hubie

9:39 pm on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Added the 125x125 button where the 120x240 ad was doing nothing. We'll see how it goes. It definitely looks much better than the 120x240 showing only one ad.

Thanks for everyone's help...especially NetMeg!

Hubes

Hubie

8:16 am on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My issue with Link Units:

125x125 Button - displays "ads by google"
120x90 Link Unit - displays "ads by google" in BOLD font

arrrrrgh

netmeg

2:12 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hubie, I don't think you leave these things up long enough to truly test them.

Hubie

9:23 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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EUUUREEEKA!

OK so I rearranged my pages and made them longer to fit a 120x600 vertical. WOO HOO! The clicks are coming in.

NetMeg, you are probably right that I'm not testing them long enough. However, I am right in the middle of "busy season" and cant afford to test each idea at least a week at a time. If my ads usually gather clicks daily and CTR is somewhat predictable, and then I test something and after 24-36 hours i'm sitting on zero clicks while my other ads are performing as normal? I was willing to risk it. My site is small enough where I just keep adding new channels for each ad, naming them by date, ad type, and where I put it on my site.

I can always test later during the "unbusy" season. In any event, thank you all who responded to my post, especially netmeg who has been a big help throughout my setting up the account.

Hubes