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Ability to Register Own Websites w/AdSense

         

radmin

6:00 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have some things on top of my head which I would like to share with you:
If a rival webmaster puts my adsense code on some warez or adult
site, although I don't have any fault at this, I'd probably get kicked
out of adsense. Right?
I think to prevent this from happenning, there should be an option
like the following:
An option that would allow me to say : only display my adsense ads on
the domains that I specify.
You already have the competing ads filter, I think this also would be
a good addition that would help us webmasters have a peace of mind.

humblebeginnings

6:07 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a good idea. Welcome to WebmasterWorld. Please continue to share your ideas in the forum!

Khensu

6:15 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes that would give us some level of security for our ad code. It would also have a two fold purpose of telling Google "Exactly" what sites the code is on.

Welcome radmin!

Nice to have someone walk in the door with a positive idea rather than the "where is the bucket of money" or "I just got banned", initial post.

[edited by: Khensu at 6:19 pm (utc) on Sep. 1, 2006]

Hobbs

6:49 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>where is the bucket of money
Don't tell me you didn't get yours yet?

I remember this request coming up in every Google wish list thread, but allow me to throw is a question:

If Google discounts all clicks not accompanied by a referrer identifying your domain(s), Google and you as a publisher are likely to miss out on a lot of clicks, you know that a percentage of surfers run on airtight security settings that suppresses this information, leaving Google with only the IP of your visitor and your publisher ID to credit itself and you and debit the advertiser.. Maybe Google is not giving us this feature because they calculated the amount of earnings that could be lost if this feature is implemented and came up with a loss too big to justify just for our peace of mind, put yourself in their shoes, if they think they have click fraud detection to an acceptable level and under control, you won't be seeing this feature.

zCat

6:58 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hobbs, I think the solution here is to have a per-domain key for AdSense and have this included in the Javascript snippet. The Javascript can (I think) identify the page it's being executed on, whether or not the browser supports referrers. The Google maps API uses this kind of solution, and AFAICS there's no technical reason why it couldn't be used for AdSense.

Hobbs

7:28 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I do not know if it would work zCat, but tell me, if you are Google, would you bloat your code with extra bits just for the publisher's peace of mind?
I'd hazard a guess and say they are very sure of their click fraud system, and your psychological well being is low in their list of priorities below other earnings boosting features and new click fraud detection mechanisms.

But I would be the happiest if this feature is implemented.

Khensu

7:56 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Didn't you hear? That is this years Christmas gift.

A life size porcelain bucket of money with the Google logo on it.

Would look good in my office.

[6]It would be nice to have some kind of URL based controls![/6]

I wonder if ASA can see that?

Sorry martini restricted my MFA bug art, so much for subliminalism.

[edited by: Khensu at 8:00 pm (utc) on Sep. 1, 2006]

I Will Make It

8:00 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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solution here is to have a per-domain key for AdSense and have this included in the Javascript snippet

This wouldn't really work too good. Javascripts are easily edited and written. And whoever who wants too can at any time steal someone's script or source code, since javascript is a client side script.

But I do fancy the idea of being able to restrict which domains your code would work on. It's easy to fix this.
Google could use the "ad_client pub id", and check with their own program if this user has allowed *this particular "ad_client pub id" to be shown on *that particular page. Then an idiot trying to get someone banned, need the users ads-code and also the users google login details..

theRealairness

10:58 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If Google can make this addition, it is the best Christmas Gift ever. I still want the bucket of money with Google logo though

zCat

1:38 am on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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solution here is to have a per-domain key for AdSense and have this included in the Javascript snippet

This wouldn't really work too good. Javascripts are easily edited and written. And whoever who wants too can at any time steal someone's script or source code, since javascript is a client side script.

This does work - try embedding Google maps code on an URL the key isn't registered for. The server compares the domain the key is registered for with the domain the script is being executed from, and if they don't match a little pop-up message appears. When I first saw this one of my first thoughts was "why can't they do something similar for AdSense?"

Paris

3:17 am on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That's a good idea, even though it would have different implications for the publisher with just one site as opposed to the AdSense publisher with dozens -- if not hundreds -- of different domains.

The problem with the scenario is that if a "rival" runs adult or pirated software sites -- or has access to them -- the innocent party may not be toiling away in the best of website niches.

More often than not, Google may be willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater if it sees this as a problematic account with constant enemy attacks that would drain Google of even more resources. Unless, of course, this is a very big publisher that we're talking about.

And Google doesn't always ban the account as it sometimes simply blacklists the domain which is the ideal solution for all involved.

hal12b

4:40 pm on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It is a great idea and I have no idea why such a powerhouse has not implemented it already.

gamiziuk

7:28 pm on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If a rival webmaster puts my adsense code on some warez or adult site, although I don't have any fault at this, I'd probably get kicked out of adsense. Right?

You would appeal by stating that the website was not yours.

Since I create channels for all my websites, I presume you do the same. The Adsense team would check and see there is no such channel in your account, which would back up your claim.

swa66

3:43 am on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If a rival webmaster puts my adsense code on some warez or adult site, although I don't have any fault at this, I'd probably get kicked out of adsense. Right?

You would appeal by stating that the website was not yours.

Since I create channels for all my websites, I presume you do the same. The Adsense team would check and see there is no such channel in your account, which would back up your claim.

Sorry, but it's wrong:
- you cannot appeal if you do not know where the thing was used (and how could you know? GOOG won't tell.

- Channel info is available in the source code of your site: they just copy it along.

- "Claim" you do not know why they ban, how could you claim anything but not knowing why?

We really could use protection from evil competitors.

leadegroot

12:52 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Since I create channels for all my websites, I presume you do the same. The Adsense team would check and see there is no such channel in your account, which would back up your claim.

Just for comparision... I do the same thing, and recently I had half a dozen clicks that didn't show up on any of the domains.
It was just after one of the I-got-unbanned threads, and I was feeling paranoid, so I emailled Google (I usually don't worry), but the response I got back was just boilerplate, so I don't think they are interested in this sort of thing :(
I wish they were...