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Howz that.

don't call me insane for this.....

         

sauron0512

5:14 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One of my WebPage contains a satellite Image of my Home taken from Google Earth. Below it is a single text line saying "My Home as seen from space".
I have placed two rectangular ads (all ads contain NASA and Satellite related stuff) and they are paying me well.

I wonder how many of you have tried this.

DamonHD

6:01 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

So let's see: you're bragging about putting up a page with AdSense devoid of content except a picture that you don't own the copyright of and that can't be of any actual use to anyone.

Did you also disable the back button to keep the CTR high?

I guess if I wanted G to close down my accounts sharpish I'd (1) do what you have done (2) brag about it in a public forum that their employees visit daily (3) email G the URL and tell them to stick their ToS right up /dev/null.

Was my response what you were hoping for? If you are not trolling then I advise you to take down that page (and anything similar) ASAP.

Rgds

Damon

sauron0512

6:10 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanx for the advise (very harsh but effective) . I will bring down the page in a couple of days , and look for some original contents......

DamonHD

6:55 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

If I were you I'd do it *NOW* and stop breaking the ToS *NOW*.

G's robots don't sleep, and if they happen to wander across your page (and any similar that you have) before you take it down then you may be facing a ban, or at least an additional "bad smell" recorded against your account.

All for how much dubiously-acquired ad-click money?

Rgds

Damon

ronburk

7:05 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I couldn't divine exactly what part of the Terms and Conditions could reasonably be offended by this.

a) sounds like something quite reasonable to encounter on any random blog. When the point of a page is the picture, it's not that uncommon to have little or no text with it, IME.

b) poster didn't mention any attempt to deceive, that I could see.

c) poster didn't say how he's getting traffic; so if Google's sending him free traffic, then that's apparently their best judgement that the page is worthwhile.

d) poster didn't mention any attempt to force clicks that I could see; if people are clicking and SmartPricing isn't hammering him, then presumably the page is succeeding at connecting customers to advertisers.

e) don't know where the traffic stream is coming from, but I would sort of expect that folks seeking info on NASA and space are more likely than the average bear to know where the Back button is if they don't like the page.

f) far from their old policy of asking people to limit where they put ads, seems like Google these days pretty much wants you to plaster your ads everywhere and let them decide whether it works or not and how much to pay you for it.

What have I missed that makes this likely to raise Google's ire?

BigDave

7:11 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm with ronburk on this one. The picture IS content. If it is a NASA picture it is in the public domain.

If it were me, I would almost certainly have more text than the OP has, but that would be about it.

DamonHD

7:18 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

ToS problems as I see them:

1) The picture is not generally what seems to count as content in AS terms.

2) Using images/MP3s/movies/etc that you're not authorised to use by the copyright holder is against the letter and spirit of AS. Much satellite imagery is NOT from NASA and NOT public domain. (And G doesn't want to be caught up in licensing arguments I assume.)

3) A page where the only way out is ads is often called "MFA" in WW. If the point is to have a funny page, then absolutely well and good. If it's to make money out of AS then don't do it, since the only content on the page is not yours to make money out of.

4) Getting well-paid aerospace ads on a contentless page, and then getting paid for clicks that have almost zero chance of converting is not good for the advertisers.

Rgds

Damon

[edited by: DamonHD at 7:20 pm (utc) on Aug. 20, 2006]

sonny

7:20 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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pretty cool idea!
Fortunately, my house shows up in nice resolution, as I have tried some other addresses and yhey are a blur up close.

Alioc

7:55 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This copyrighted stuff with AdSense issue shouldn't be taken so seriously. In most cases copyright owner happily grants permission unless you claim ownership. In this case, Google Earth SS is like that, well, I don't think he claims to have shot his home from space himself.

On a side note, if you're so serious, don't ever forget putting the Registration mark whenever you type GoogleŽ and AdsenseŽ anywhere!

There's no blog where 100% of the content actually belongs to the author of the blog.

It was discussed many times that images are considered content.

Finally, I only suggest the owner of the post to decrease the number of ad units on that page. More than one ad unit on a page with only a picture would surely look spammy. Adding more text will also help much.

[edited by: Alioc at 8:02 pm (utc) on Aug. 20, 2006]

ann

8:23 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sounds like a MFA page and not even worth discussing.

humblebeginnings

8:41 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There's no blog where 100% of the content actually belongs to the author of the blog.

Yes there is, mine. And not only my "blog", but several other websites of mine only host text written by me and pictures taken by me, nowhere else to be found on the Internet.
And that's why I can't make a page in 6 minutes.

lammert

10:15 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have asked AdSense support about comparable pages on my sites once. The only difference was that it were pages with one picture per page taken by myself (obviously not from a satellite, I haven't been so high in space yet :))

AdSense support responded that ad targetting might be a problem with very little content surrounding the picture and that PSAs showing might be the result. They didn't write that it was against the T&C, which I specifically asked about.

According to the OP the ads are targetted to the keywords (NASA related), so I guess there is enough text information for the targetting algorithm. He also didn't mention disabling the back button or that no internal links to other pages were present, so we should assume that this is a legitimate page on a normal site until proven otherwise.

The only problem might be copyright, but I do not know the copyright status of satellite images taken from Google Earth.

There's no blog where 100% of the content actually belongs to the author of the blog.

Yes there is, mine.

Just curious, you don't accept comments on your blog from visitors?

humblebeginnings

10:40 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just curious, you don't accept comments on your blog from visitors?

Indeed. On my blog I have disabled comments. And my other websites also don't have a possibility for visitors to write public comments.
I once experimented with a comments window on my entertainment site.
The result:
- Spam, spam, spam...
- Thousands of return visitors, but guess what; they were busy with their own comments instead of clicking my ads.
- My site was polluted with offensive comments. It took me several hours a week to moderate.

I decided to no longer accept comments and to keep control over my own sites...

ann

11:22 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good for you HB!

Ann

youfoundjake

1:17 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And that's why I can't make a page in 6 minutes.

lol.. just 6 words, 25 line post, 30 line summary... silly...
My blog is all original writing. Currently working on getting traffic there. Submitted to all the major sites, as well as sumbitting my feeds to all the sites. The adsense on the blog are extremely relevant, but one thing has always irked me... my ad block background is white, but there is a pale yellow seperator between each ad. Yet other places on my site, the grey ad background matches the grey background of my css sheet. Any ideas about that?

[edited by: youfoundjake at 1:27 am (utc) on Aug. 21, 2006]

BigDave

1:18 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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from the Google earth help center:

Can I post images to the web?

We're flattered to hear that you're further incorporating Google Earth into your online world. You can personally use an image from the application (for example on your website, on a blog or in a word document) as long as you preserve the copyrights and attributions including the Google logo attribution. However, you cannot sell these to others, provide them as part of a service, or use them in a commercial product such as a book or TV show without first getting a rights clearance from Google.

It took me all of about 5 seconds of searching to find.

Is a website with AdSense a "commercial product" according to this? Maybe, but probably not. Especially since Google is making money from it as well.

theRealairness

4:46 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does comment on blog hurts our website rankings and positions? Should we allow them to put url on their nicknames?

sauron0512

1:50 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone
Thax for all the information you provided (some i could catch , others went over my head).....

But Acting on Damon's advice I have removed the site....
now i feel much better

DamonHD

2:59 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Well, thank you for being gracious about my quite <ahem> strong </ahem> suggestions: I've seen too many dishonest people around here asking for the best way to rob banks! Glad that you seem not to be among them!

BTW, I like your original idea of the view from space! Just not happy from the advertisers' point of view...

Rgds

Damon