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piernik

6:57 am on May 31, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone.

I need some advice. I have big travel website which is divided to subdomains:
- www - travel guide. Places to visit - every place has one landing page. Place has good description, gallery, is marked on map, opinions and ratings. It is my main landing area for all keywords.
- blog - our blog with our trips, rankings, reviews and so on.

There are another subdomains like map., social., ads. but I thinks it is not relevant.

My concern is keywords cannabalisation. When we go for example to Wawel castle we post trip with relation on our blog. In that post there is always link to site in www subdomain to main "Wawel castle" article (often in H2 tag)- this is our landing page for that keyword. But blog post is promoted in our social media. Also sometimes one or two paragraphs may be the same as in www article (ex. practical info).

Questions:
1. Should I put "noindex, follow" metatag in blog post?
2. Should I put links in main article to blog posts? ("see our recent trips to that place")
3. Can I use keywords in blog post in title?
4. Is fact that these are two different subdomains really matters? In my opinion google treats it all as one big website.
5. Almost always www article is picked for specific keyword, but maybe blog posts weakens its rankings?

Thanks in advance

RedBar

3:07 pm on May 31, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I stopped using blogs years ago and possibly my comments are wrong.
But blog post is promoted in our social media.

G seems to consider itself as a "social news aggregator" these past few years rather than an all-encompassing informational resource, basically it's dummed-down to the lowest common denominator, entertainment rules, not fact, quantity rules, not quality.
3. Can I use keywords in blog post in title?

I always used to and it worked well, is there any reason not to these days?

NickMNS

3:55 pm on May 31, 2021 (gmt 0)

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My concern is keywords cannabalisation

Keywords cannibalization is when you are taking traffic which typically goes to a desired page webpage and dividing it such that some of the traffic goes to an undesired webpage. Most commonly this occurs by running ads for keywords that you rank well for. For some fix level of organic traffic, when running the ad some of that organic traffic goes to clicking the ad. Your thus cannibalizing your organic traffic, or paying for traffic that was previously free. I'm not sure that this is your case as you seem to be indifferent as to which page blog or www the traffic lands on. What you want is simply more traffic.

1. Should I put "noindex, follow" metatag in blog post?

NO, Absolutely not. "noindex, follow" === "noindex, nofollow" because if a page is not in the index links appearing on the page cannot be followed. For more information see this thread [webmasterworld.com...]

2. Should I put links in main article to blog posts? ("see our recent trips to that place")

Yes absolutely. One must assume that these are articles a relevant to each other, so it is logical, even desirable for a user to want reviews and other information regarding a specific location. The inverse would be true too, users reading the blog may want the detailed information from www page. So these articles should be linked in both directions, in way that is natural and logical to users.

3. Can I use keywords in blog post in title?

The concept of the keyword is dead (RIP). See this thread for just one of many reasons why [webmasterworld.com...] . So what now? Just write a natural title to inform the users what the article is about. If it contains the words that make up your "keyword" then great.

4. Is fact that these are two different subdomains really matters? In my opinion google treats it all as one big website.

If you say so then it probable is being treated as one. Google has stated that it can treat sub domains as one if they appear related, or it can treat it separate websites if they are unrelated. If you add the cross linking in 2, it will almost certainly be treated as one.

5. Almost always www article is picked for specific keyword, but maybe blog posts weakens its rankings?

Whether traffic is sent to www or blog is largely going to be dependent on user intention. User's looking for facts will be sent www, and those wanting reviews will be sent to the blog. Having both types of articles means that you should be able to get more traffic than if you just had one. But each "intention" will have it's competition, so there maybe less competition for pure information and thus you get more traffic, and more competition for reviews. And again, cross linking (point 2) will mean that users coming for facts, once they have found the facts, may change intention and want reviews, then read your reviews (or vice versa). These user that switch intention would essentially be the same as increasing traffic, but you no longer need to depend on Google to get the additional page views.

piernik

6:16 am on Jun 1, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Thank You for very exhaustive answer :) So I'm doing everything right - great to know. Once again thanks (for links also).