Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Can you believe that I've run into a few people who see the sitelinks and think that it is part of Google's own results. They scroll down below the sitelinks and choose from there. Sitelinks are alien to many and the way they are formatted may have the opposite intended effect.
They've done a good job on my sites, so I'm not sure specifically how this works. Also, it appears that you have to block SiteLink URLs one-by-one, so this may be a problem for the "country subforums" you mention if you have a lot of them.
Jim
However, one of the sitelinks chosen is a specific thread and I'm not so sure that's a good thing.
Jim
Another client has sitelinks for a single generic keyword. That's a very startling event, since there are 16 million results currently reported, and the keyword triggers many Adwords plus a Google Shopping OneBox at the top of the SERP. In other words, there are serious competitors who must be furious about those sitelinks.
One factor I'm watching with strong interest it how the sitelinks algo generates the menu labels. In one case, I see "Click here for all widgets" - Google has added the "click here for" part. That doesn't appear on the page anywhere on the site, not even in an alt attribute.
Could it possibly be the webmasters own choice of a sitelink, do you think?
Webmasters cannot proactively suggest or choose sitelinks, only delete those that the algorithm has already selected.
I tried a search for the same keyword. The search still returns sitelinks for the very same site, but it no longer has the 'Back' link. Now it's sitelinks show some language choise links and a sitemap link.
It seems like Google have adjusted the sitelinks for this site/keyword.
Webmasters cannot proactively suggest or choose sitelinks, only delete those that the algorithm has already selected.
Ok, I didn't knew that -- So far none of my sites have sitelinks.
I have seen an example of a site with sitelinks that got a -60 penalty. There it was sitting at position #61, but sitelinks were still showing!
In my niche sites that rank tend to be intraspective, they encourage links in but give very few out and almost never have out-links on their home pages.
The site at #1 is very different, it has bought roughly the same number of in-links as the old established sites have gathered over the years but is structured like this. The home page points to pages on the companies that supply the key search term and to semantically linked things. From each of those pages is an affiliate link to the site of one of the firms trying to compete for top 10 spots. Of course none of those sites link to it. As a result this site is #1 with site links for the most competitive term in our market and is taking commission from the very sites that it is keeping off top spot.
I hope that the mods will allow me this example. I've been trying to understand why Microsoft has site links with a site search box but Apple Computer doesn't get site links. Both have a PR of 9. Microsoft has out links from its home page to a different domain and to sub domains. Apple just has folders within the one domain and seems to have no out links from the next level down from the root.
I know of sites that have no out links on their home page or one level down but do get sitelinks for their brand name search. So this cannot be the only factor but I think it is important.
Cheers
Sid
I've been trying to understand why Microsoft has site links with a site search box but Apple Computer doesn't get site links.
Apple does have sitelinks for me - and has for a long time. I see them for both the [Apple] and [Apple Computer] searches.
Is your question more about the site search box? That's a relatively new innovation, and the logic behind when it gets assigned is a bit mysterious to me, so far at least.
On google.co.uk Apple has no site links, I see it does on .com sorry I was searching for an example that fitted my argument and shot from the hip as soon as I found one. I was working on the hypothesis that "Authority site deserving of site links for a competitive term" might, in part be related to linking structure with other sites. Authorities tend to have more outlinks than merchants and therefore it might be possible to trigger the sitelink algo by using a structure including outlinks to sites on the same topic.
Whilst it may be interesting that the UK filter changes things it doesn't push the discussion further.
Cheers
Sid