Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Major shift in one word search results
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Hey Guys:
I thought that this post was pretty important becuase somehow it ended and folks just stopped posting to this - but months later we are still seeing this original effect - therefore I feel that this is very important to keep.
I first noticed this shift on May 25th and it still seems to be in play.
With 20/20 hindsight now... it seems to all be related to the following topics in WW:
September 2007 Google SERP Changes
Is Google Classifying 'Types' of Websites and Search Terms?
But specifically - I wanted to address the issues surrounding 1 KW searches and SERPS here.
If anyone else can add their experience for 1 KW results here it would be helpful for everyone.
Thank you.
ARC
A lot of what I see seems to be attempts to sort out this kind of thing for those ambiguous short searches. No longer are we seeing a single algo across all sites - instead, representative urls from different classes of sites are being "forced" onto the first page of results.
There could be a lesson here for people picking names for new products and businesses: even though an already existing word will be easy to remember, you may be better off inventing something new.
All of our multi-term keywords have remained stable.
There seems to be a story here but I'm unable to tell what that is...
I stumbled across this last night just out of sheer frustration and in doing so... I noticed that the results were actually almost as good as they were a few months ago.
The asterisk seems to be taking a filter of some sort out of play.
Searching for "*ball" will just show results for a wider range of topics like "monster's ball", "lucille ball" and "crystal ball" etc.
I don't think it's a case of filters being removed or anything, just that you're performing a much vaguer search so a wider variety of results are being pulled out.
From Google Help: [images.google.com...]
"Please note that wildcard searches work for whole words or phrases only;"
[edited by: tedster at 8:07 pm (utc) on Sep. 11, 2007]
The key is that you have to have scholarly content on the pages that high power, legit, recognized sites (such as universities, professional journals, trade associations, legit .gov's)link to.
Even then - you can expect yo-yo'ing on a regular basis.
My site was on page 2 where it hasn't been all summer...fell to number 57 (probably be lower tomorrow)for no earthly reason that I could figure out..just a family friendly site that has been on the web since 1997, ALWAYS white hat.. Makes me want to just cry when I see it keep going downhill for nothing.
I guess Google no longer likes clean, user friendly and well made mature html sites that are kept maintained.
Ann
[edited by: tedster at 2:13 pm (utc) on Sep. 29, 2007]
In the past year, the home page on the site has consistently ranked #1 or #2, and occasionally this interior page moved up to page one to cluster behind it. Since May 24, the inner page has mostly hovered up at the top of page 2.
There's been no accompanying movement at all on other interior pages in the site (nor any for home page searches). Since the link quality profile is more or less consistent across the site (oversimplifying greatly), I'd guess that Google might have 'turned a dial' for one word searches only... but of course there's no way to be sure. This could also be just a temporary shift.
This is not something I dwell on, but this kind of volatility on single-word searches can be a leading indicator of other changes that might come on competitive multi-word searches.
PS...
I guess Google no longer likes clean, user friendly and well made mature html sites that are kept maintained.
ann - I see that the movement we report is similar, but I feel the causes are likely to be more complex than whether a site is "mature" and "kept maintained."
Again, there are questions of ambiguity in one word searches. Perhaps, for ambiguous terms, Google is raising, say, the linking threshold within various niches, and then trying to normalize the percentage of results over all niches combined. As always, the results that are lower down are less stable than those at the top.
[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 7:10 pm (utc) on Oct. 6, 2007]
With the asterisks the results look great and my site is back on the first page where (IMHO) it belongs.
Regarding the asterisks mentioned above, we should reference this other discussion, also about what the asterisks (and slashes and asterisks) appear to be doing....
Adding /* to a regular Google search term - what does it do?
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I note the same effect others have mentioned here on single word searches, with some interesting signs that were being discussed in the other thread. One thing I'm seeing is that the search order of your single word and the asterisk can greatly affect how the asterisks change your rankings.
[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 11:59 pm (utc) on Oct. 6, 2007]