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Music Publishers Join YouTube Copyright Suit

         

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11:56 am on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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A trade association representing major music publishers signed on as plaintiffs in an existing lawsuit accusing YouTube of copyright infringement, joining a growing list of parties who argue Google Inc.'s video-sharing service routinely violates intellectual-property rights.

But most music publishers haven't reached any such agreement. Continuing negotiations have failed to reach a royalty rate that satisfies publishers, people close to the situation said. However, the biggest music publisher by market share, Vivendi SA's Universal Music Publishing Group, has reached an agreement with YouTube, separate from the industrywide one the NMPA has been negotiating toward.

"Many song writers and music publishers view YouTube as a promising promotional platform for connecting with their fans," Google said in a statement. "We are surprised and disappointed that the NMPA has elected to take this route."

Music Publishers Join YouTube Copyright Suit [online.wsj.com]

pontifex

12:25 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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tough call... but they became big by violating copyright laws and monetize on that. If they would follow the DMCA, they would have needed to remove any of the videos within 24 hrs after legit complains came in. wasn't there a thread here about that?
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gibbergibber

1:44 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Short of manually screening every single video before upload, I'm not sure there's much Google can do about this. And they can't do manual screening because it would never be able to cope with all the new clips.

pontifex

2:03 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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would never be able to cope with all the new clips

i honestly doubt that.

If you put 2 guys in place, who screen the new uploads... (lets say they get a total of 50 per minute) and one guy can screen 3 uploads per minute, you would be able to delete roughly 10% of the copyright violations... quite a few, not to speak of the impact on the community: people would see, that there is a risk of getting their videos deleted and would think twice of spending the time!

The problem is, that they are not doing that, because people would go to the competition and bring them the content, IMHO!

They delete only (afaik), what gets reported... that is the problem!

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thecoalman

3:29 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Pontifex, just my .02 but 9 in 10 odds isn't going to deter most. I'd even bet most would consider it game.

FYI they get about 50 to 60,000 videos a day last I read. In a 8 hour day that's 125 a minute for 60,000.

IMO it would probably take at least 50 or 60 people to screen everthing and even then some would get through because the person screening it may not see the copyrighted part or even know it was it copyrighted.

vincevincevince

3:35 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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and one guy can screen 3 uploads per minute,

Henceforth, I will prefix all pirated content with 20 seconds of home-video just to ensure that the 3/min rate of review doesn't allow time to get to the latest vidcap from cable...

9 in 10 odds, and if deleted you try it again. Chance of getting through if you upload up to twice is 9/10 + (1/10 * 9/10) = 99/100

pontifex

4:51 pm on Aug 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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well, then instead of hiring only 2 guys, they can hire 20... that would even the odds and really change something.

Just to make clear: I am not a fan of law suits, but I am a big fan of the DMCA! A division with 20 people deleting the stuff all day would IMHO really make a difference.

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thecoalman

3:01 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If they wanted to hire 20 people to do this that's fine. Youtube will have the resources to pay 20 people to do this but smaller sites will not have the resources to do so. I pointed out in another thread if they lose this lawsuit it is going to set a bad precedent that is going to affect any site that allows user contributed uploads.

Asumming they lose this would most likely apply to any copyrighted material that would include text as well so would even affect sites such as this one. It would be impossible to monitor and screen every post of file uploaded by most sites.

Sounds doomsdayish but I would suggest it would put an end to forums or any such service that allows user contributed material .

gibbergibber

9:26 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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--Sounds doomsdayish but I would suggest it would put an end to forums or any such service that allows user contributed material . --

I agree, it would end up with sites having to clear copyright BEFORE material was posted. That would prove too costly and time-consuming, so most sites would simply refuse to post anything that could possibly be in copyright.

All you would have left on Youtube would be home videos of people's dogs and one minute reviews of MP3 players.