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Amex Card Approved Even With Wrong Card Information?

Platform: FDMS Nashville

         

olimits7

2:41 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I'm using PCCharge to process my credit card transactions. I've been setup with the FDMS Nashville platform and it works fine with Visa/MC. I tried using my own Visa/MC for test purposes and I see that if I enter the wrong CVV2, expiration date, billing zip code, etc... the transaction is declined; which is fine because that is what I was expecting to happen.

However, when I used my Amex card and entered the wrong CID, expiration date, billing zip code, etc... the transaction got approved. This worries me because that means a customer can just have a valid credit card number and the transaction will be approved.

Does anybody have FDMS setup as their platform? Or is using PCCharge for credit card transactions? Does anybody know why this is happening?

Thank you,

olimits7

jay5r

2:50 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Typically credit card processors will give you information on certain tests - the results will come through as pass/fail/unknown. CVV2, zip code, address, etc. It's common for a credit card to come through as "authorized" and fail one or more tests (and yes, some of my experience is with FDMS Nashville, but they're not atypical). As a result, I use a two step process instead of a one step process and then never do delayed captures on ones that don't meet our criteria - which are stricter than the credit card processor's criteria.

olimits7

2:57 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for your quick reply.

So even if the Amex authorization gets approved I should receive a response from FDMS Nashville telling me if AVS/CID did not match and then I can use this information to base my decision if I should capture the authorization, right?

However, I see that from the PCCharge platform matrix that FDMS Nashville isn't capable of handling CID for Amex cards. That stinks.

If you don't mind me asking how do you handle Amex transactions throught FDMS Nashville? What is your 2 step process?

Thank you, again.

olimits7

jay5r

3:12 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I use Verisign's PayFlow Pro. They can either charge the credit card in a one or two step process. In the two step process you get an authorization and then when you've shipped the product you're supposed to do a "delayed capture". I sell electronic products, so I do delayed captures immediately, but just shelve the ones that don't pass all our criteria. Our criteria are a little complicated, but there are certain tests that I don't accept failures on and others I do, but at least one of the tests has to pass for me to accept the card (they can't all be neutral or "acceptable failures").

One thing I could never figure out, however, was how to cancel the authorizations I reject... So far it hasn't been an issue, but technically it ties up the money on the customer's card for 30 days...

topr8

3:29 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One thing I could never figure out, however, was how to cancel the authorizations I reject... So far it hasn't been an issue,

i had to manually telephone my card processor and ask for an authorisation to be cancelled...

this because i authorised a payment twice (but only commited once) and had the customer on the phone mad that they had been contacted by their card issuer wondering if there card was being used fraudulantly because there were two large payments stacked up from overseas (i'm foreign to them, though of course they were foreign to me :) )

olimits7

4:11 pm on Aug 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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When you do an authorization on an Amex transaction does it always get approved through Payment Pro? Or do you receive declined authoriztions as well?

What kind of response do you receive from Payment Pro?

Thanks again,

olimits7

Tourz

12:45 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Amex wanted me to sign a "Full Recourse Addendum" to the contract that stated "you agree that we will have the absolute right to be reimbursed by you for any charges purchased which are not collectable due to fraud, regardless of whether we had notice of such defect at the time of authorization".

Doesn't that sound fraudulent?! I crossed it out before signing.

If you signed it as is then you may be liable for transactions made without the correct info. Be careful! You can cross-reference telephone numbers in the whitepages to check billing address.