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Stolen content: can we learn from the music industry?

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explorador

3:45 pm on Nov 14, 2025 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Hi, my content is not better than yours (maybe it is), perhaps your content is better than mine, but it doesn't matter, because yours and mine gets constantly stolen, copied, altered, no credit is given, and on top of that: others profit from your hard work. Now, constantly, you see at work or in academic fields people saying "source: Google, Pinterest, ChatGPT", this means it's not only the act of stealing (where others take your content) it's also people performing bad practices and somehow credit a machine or service as the source. This is wrong, but working with people at universities, the more is happens, the more it's normalized.

Yeah but that's the web, right? it's free, if you don't want your content being copied, don't post.


Sure, whoever doesn't wants to die, lock yourself at home, right?

By nature I seek solutions, I don't get stuck on complaining; and money has never been my main goal, that's how my websites were born, out of pure passion, getting paid for it... or just making profit... that's a different story, keep in mind that something of quality is not mandatory to be made free, so, please rethink if you have ideas like "it's your passion then do it for free", ok, if you cook and that's your passion, do it for free then, no, there is a huge problem here.

The thing is, over several years, my content being stolen, and also "edited" in ways that it's "fair use", ha, right, sure Google, show us your source code so we can alter it and then say it's fair use. ANYWAY, back to my point, I do feel these bad practices over the years have impacted my motivation and will to keep posting content. Don't judge me, it's only natural: it creates frustration, so I created this thread here:

Do you get tired of others copying your content?
https://www.webmasterworld.com/content_copywriting/5122539.htm

But I've been wondering what can we learn from the music industry.
Music (and software) gets constantly copied (as in copy paste), downloaded and shared among people who didn't pay for it. The debate began around the times of Napster and other services alike. Musicians and companies complained due to the high costs of production and LOOSING MONEY. Among many, John Mellencamp heavily complained by these bad practiced and tried legal measures and coming with innovation, things didn't go far. Also, Britney Spears(again, among others), said solid things about the constant stealing in the music industry.

But at that time, Robbie Williams said something interesting, I don't remember the exact words, but, yeah copying music is bad, but you don't complain when you see your songs at the top of the popularity lists, only when people do not care.

Ok, true, FAIR point, but in that regard:
  • Musicians still earned money
  • Musicians STILL got CREDIT for their material
  • The propagation of your stolen material contributed to their popularity
  • And last, but still important: musicians still earn money (fame and credit) via other sources, like concerts, public ones or private


Do you seek other ways to profit from your content?
Can YOU profit from your persona (becoming some sort of a personality?)
How can you do these things, if others stealing your content put in risk your authorship?
How do you battle "I wrote this" when others take your content?
How can you battle this, if others can do exactly the same? with YOUR content? like building an online authority personality?

At the end of the day, while the music industry suffers, their voices are still their voices, it's them, they still get their credit.

Format for easy reading provided by me, after taking the time using the formatting tools (you know these are limited, just let me say it, format matters for content, it's the first think you would criticize if someone posted their site for review, I would have finished in the blink of an eye with the right tools. IF YOU believe format (and context) don't matter, and it's ok to just post a wall of text without format, let me know.

tangor

9:22 am on Nov 15, 2025 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Seems like this is two sides of dissimilar arguments.

One is theft of word/content/IP, the other is theft of image/likeness/performance.

I suspect that YouTubers have faced the same issues of folks "stealing" their commentary, but NOT THEIR LIKENESS, PERFORMANCE, or IMAGE. When you put a face on an IP that's far more difficult to STEAL, yet, it does happen time and again, particularly with AI rearing its ugly head.

What we CAN learn from the music industry is HIRE A GAGGLE OF LAWYERS and set them loose. Sue anyone and everyone for the SLIGHTEST reason and make it PAINFUL to continue the theft. Oh, wait, webmasters don't have legislation, administrators, copyright office controls, or even pockets deep enough to retain a battery of lawyers to do the dirty work. Comparison = Fail.

THAT SAID a possible solution is to take your website to YouTube, host a weekly, daily, even hourly podcast showcasing your web stuff (or products and services) and let YT slap adverts on it and you get a SMALL taste of the revenue. Meanwhile, you'll still have to cut through the competition fog to find customers FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, otherwise, all you got is your personality, likeness, and hopefully a jolly spiel that is entertaining and brings in return viewers because you are interesting.

Content (as in webmaster parlance) has no obvious "likeness", "image", or any "facial/person" as an ordinary trademark (ie, that singular "trademark" is YOU, THE PERSON, not merely the content spewed). We have Words in ether, data, products and services---no face, no person, cut and paste---AND NO CENTRALLY RECOGNIZED copyright office which is the FIRST STEP in protecting creative intellectual property. Book, Magazine, and Newspapers DO have a Copyright which has been recognized for a few centuries---but nothing like that exists for the WEB. Musicians, too (think BMI and ASCAP) have legislated protections, and administrative offices to put TEETH in copyright protection.

It must be stated that products and services rarely get stolen as these are ACTIVITIES and ITEMS such as "mop the floor" or "red widget #2", but CLIENTS can be "stolen" by cut and paste offers from fly-by-night fraudsters---who rarely get far in that kind of scheme due to lack of service/supply or satisfied customers.

BOTTOM LINE

Until the web has an internationally recognized and authoritative Copyright Office there can be no control of theft by inches or miles. Heck, all too often g demurs on "copyright" claims since the one you challenged shows that their work (copied from you) hit the web 24 hours before you posted it (a lie, but what can you do?).

What Burns is the lack of RESPECT. That actually hurts. For some that theft it is understandably deeply personal, for the rest of us this is merely a PITA to be shrugged off and "full steam ahead" since the alternative is to "do nothing, fade, and disappear".

Sorry, no FORMATTING was used (could have, but why?).