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Any suggestions for handling this?

Big-name site rewriting our articles

         

Leva

11:35 pm on Oct 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I run a small but growing entertainment site. We're small, but most of my writers are "subject matter experts" and are writing better, more informed, and more comprehensive articles than you'd get from a mainstream site.

Big Name News Site (PR of 7 or 8, very high technorati rank) is systematically taking our articles, rewriting them, and posting them hours after we do, whenever the news is breaking industry news. They're rewriting things enough that there's no "plagariasm" involved -- the words aren't the same. But the quotes are generally in the same place, the information is the same, and you can do a bullet-point list of points made in the articles and they match exactly.

My writers are doing all the work -- the research, the interviews, the legwork. They're doing it for pennies, because we're small and they work for a percentage of ad revenue.

Big Name Site is saving a LOT of labor by not doing their own research but rather waiting for us to do it. Plus, I suspect they are doing this to other sites as well.

I'm beginning to resent this. It's upsetting to my writers. It's annoying and lazy and rude. And they're not even giving us a link to say, "This is our source."

Unfortunately, I don't know what IP they're using to access the site or I'd serve them some "special" news on a regular basis, know what I mean? I'm trying to figure out their IP and will cheerfully serve them incorrect information if I can determine this. Unfortunately, this isn't very easy to figure out.

Short of feeding them "bad" news, however, does anyone have any suggestions? It's not exactly illegal what they're doing, just very lazy and unethical.

jtara

1:31 am on Oct 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If they aren't attributing direct quotes, that's a problem.

Syzygy

9:10 am on Oct 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think you'll find that it's not the "big name site" as such, but one lazy staff writer.

If you're certain the site is "misappropriating" your content and can prove that these stories have definitely been broken by yourselves, and there's no other way they could have gotten the information, my first inclination would be to make contact with senior personnel within the offending company.

Make contact with a director with relevant responsibility. Be prepared to argue your case very thoroughly and ensure that your approach and attitude is deadly serious. Make and keep a detailed record of any and all instances of these transgressions.

You will also need to work out in advance exactly what it is you want from them. Do you just want them to stop taking your stories? Would you be appeased if they gave due credit instead? Do you want to pursue for damages? What, exactly?

Seek legal advice. This, at the very least, will allow you to take the necessary approach when making contact. I have a feeling that, dependant on the legal position, you could find yourself facing a situation where their attitude is "so what", which means it'll be up to you to broker some sort of agreement whereby there's mutual benefit in your favour, perhaps by feeding them exclusives under licence.

Before then, do go in, but not with all guns blazing. Have a solid strategy mapped out that covers all possibilities. If the position is solely a legal one, then fine, let the law do its job. But, if your legal counsel advises that this is all bit of a grey area, and I suspect it is, then you'll need alternative strategies to deal with the "so what" attitude you may find is thrown back at you.

Just a few thoughts...

Syzygy

Rosalind

9:16 am on Oct 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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In terms of tracing the perps and protecting yourself in future, have you considered making your most recent articles viewable only to registered members? Tracing by IP is likely to have less success if they're using a proxy or a dynamic IP, but if they have to register and log in then you can trace it to an email address and so on.

By knowing who reads what, and when, you could narrow your list of suspects a little.

legallink

8:55 pm on Oct 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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There are a lot of ways to handle this. One easy way to do it, is include some inaccurate quote (one that you make up, with permission from the person who is attributed), and then see if it is duplicated.

At that point, it would be fairly easy.

Document everything that you notice. Take screen shots of the infringing content, including if possible when it was posted, as well as keep a log of the times your content is posted. If you have solid facts and numbers of the content posted, and the offenders corresponding content, negotiations should go a lot smoother.

Once there, I would work out what it is you want as previously indicated.

Do you want them to take it down? Do you want them to link to your site and give credit? Do you want compensation? Realize that as breachers of copyright, they should be willing to work out an arraignment.

Cheers,
Jeff

Leva

6:30 pm on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the suggestions.

The inaccurate quote example is a good one; that might work.

-- Leva

joelgreen

3:49 pm on Dec 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Are those "rewritten articles" signed? I mean is there author for each article on that "big" site? If so, you could check if names of stolen articles match. Maybe it is indeed one lazy person.