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I'll copy the article / news NOT for the purpose of review but because it is related to the topic of my website
Unlikely to be permitted under fair use. (But might be OK in some educational contexts.) But seek advice from an attorney who is throughly familiar with the copyright laws of your country.
Not sure why so many people come here for this advice. I would think the place to start is with the copyright authorithy in your country (in the U.S. uspto.gov) and then your attorney.
But don't know for sure how American copyright laws work though, so wouldn't be able to tell you if you can quote parts of the news or article in a context, look it up or consult an attorney as mentioned by other people in this thread.
Not sure why so many people come here for this advice. I would think the place to start is with the copyright authorithy in your country (in the U.S. uspto.gov) and then your attorney.
Then just tell the owner of this website to just remove the Copyright Forum part of this website.
seek advice from an attorney who is throughly familiar with the copyright laws of your country.
What if its a foreign website?
[edited by: Gian04 at 5:57 am (utc) on Sep. 27, 2007]
Not sure why so many people come here for this advice.Then just tell the owner of this website to just remove the Copyright Forum part of this website.
LOL! Mea culpa.
seek advice from an attorney who is throughly familiar with the copyright laws of your country.What if its a foreign website?
Only the laws of your country (or that of your website) apply. If your country has signed an international copyright convention, or has agreements with specific countries, that will be referenced by the laws of your country.
What is important to you is what law applies to citizens and businesses of your country.
It certainly is a complex matter, and that's one reason why you need to consult an attorney. Any copyright attorney will have to deal with International issues. I suppose I should have said "an attorney specializing in copyright law."
But, "Fair Use" is very much a grey area and invariably it depends on the circumstances of the intended use of those snippets that may be the deciding factor in any claim for copyright infringement.
So, on the one hand, in general terms you should be ok. But on the other, who's to say that some organisation won't feel that you're infringing upon it's copyrights to such a degree that it feels warranted in issuing legal threats.
Before you "consult an attorney", why not do a little digging around online: there are many substantial resources out there devoted to the issues of copyright that will probably prove very useful to you. Here's one of the best:
Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center [fairuse.stanford.edu]
Syzygy
Usual disclaimer: I am not qualified legal counsel. Using the internet as a legal resource is, although common sensical, not a fair substitute for engaging an expensive solicitor/attorney.
They'd usually let you do it - if for no other reasons - then for PR...
Anyway, from a non-legal perspective, I see no point in doing this, especially if you're only using a "snippet" (headline & standfirst) as "Fair Use" really is the name of the game.
I think that the frequency with which one uses "snippets" from a particular source/supply would be a factor in determining whether you'd annoy an organisation enough that they'd want to do something about it.
As a former editor at a publishing company, one of my daily tasks was to source news items for use on our sites. Not once have I had an organisation object to our usage of their news stories. (That's not to say that every organisation is the same, and that news sources are unlikely to ever complain about usage of their stories in the means described).
Syzygy
- but it would be the safest way to go and not assume anything in any way about anything. Ask, and thou shalt be given.
Example:
Hello BBC,
I would like to use a small excerpt of one of your news stories on my own website www.example.com which relates to the topic of the article in question. I would like to use this snippet:
"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet."
[edited by: RandomDot at 7:03 pm (utc) on Sep. 30, 2007]
Eventhough rewriting the "ideas" of the article in question is always the easy way to get around it - support it, always ;)
Fair use means just that - 'fair' - anything less than full attribution (probably a link to the article title), is hardly fair to the copyright owner.
And ripping off substantial amounts of text without paying a fee (or at least getting permission!), isn't fair, either.
1) Welcome people who copy a short section of an article, blog about it, post their reactions, and link back to the site. This is perfectly acceptable, reasonable, and in the US, legal. I don't even care if you link to your reaction in the comments section on my site's articles. Even if you disagree with us.
2) I grit my teeth and ignore most sites that copy a bigger chunk of text, don't post a reaction or comments beyond, "Look what I found!" and post a link back. Basically, I see this as being very lazy. It's a legal grey area. It may or may not be fair use, if they have ANY reaction or comments of their own, and are not stealing the entire article. But it's LAZY. Me, and my writers, spend hundreds of hours a week on the site -- it's beyond a full time job for me. We create quite a bit of original content. We go back to the original sources. We contact experts, industry pros, interview people, and do the news right. And then some dweeb can grab half an article, slap it on their site with Adsense, and say, "Look what I found."
It particularly galls when it's a bigger site than we are that is doing it.
But it's probably not illegal, so I grit my teeth and ignore it. However, I'm not likely to ever link to a site that does this.
And it is a link ...
3) I get downright hostile with sites that copy articles in their entirety, with or without link. This is rude and illegal. I warn, once, with a polite form letter explaining the law and what is and is not allowed, then go straight to DMCA actions.
-- Leva
Perhaps just declare the internet hostile territory without any legislation, then see what anarchism would become - could be a fun little experiment -
I am currently taking action against a Bulgarian business site that copies every business article we run each day. They are a Google News source site as well so even easier for us to track. I can actually almost watch them appear after we publish.
I would say if in doubt then don't do it and write a your own summary instead with a link. Why be lazy.
Honest mistep. We'll see what happens.